Lots of IT people cut in Columbus
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Anybody else perturbed by the lack of company wide fanfare for RTO? They are not even pretending that it is a big deal - positive or negative - its just business as usual???!!! Except, its not. The company leadership could not be bothered to offer even the most trivial concession - maybe staggered starts, early releases, free coffee or tea or ice cream social, something fun? I imagine many offices will not get any serious work done on June 2nd. And who is exempted from RTO? Its all hush hush. We office cogs could really use a union president, some kind of leader, to at least communicate about the elephant in the room - THIS IS WEIRD.
@266j From what I have seen.. Bill does nothing but lie.. Acting like we would evaluate IT coming back in based on performance. What performance? The company did great Q1 and then we hear we are coming back in this year..
Praying I do not lose my job as I financed my tickets to the upcoming Creed Cruise!! https://www.summerof99cruise.com/
Chinese Communist Sweat Shop owners refer to their comrade workers as resources. The leadership whether Communist, Capitalist or Socialist always elevate themselves above the citizens they oppress, exploit and subjugate to makes themselves feel better about their abhorrent self-serving tyranny. Destroying the society and abandoning the values that empowered you to be leaders is the most abominable betrayal of blessings. Your lack of self-discipline and self-control over your selfish impulses shall be your downfall.
Ask the British Monarchy's Colonial Governors, how far arrogance, smugness and belligerence got them.
@26e0 check the employee handbook but I believe it's now 90 days. Used to be a year but that was changed some 10 years ago during their "look how well we pay you push". I believe you can sign up and start putting money away but the company match has that delay built into it. I have to look myself but I've been here 20+ years so when that stuff gets sent out, I usually just delete it.
It's so over for AEPcels
Stop calling people “resources.” We’re human beings—not machines to be allocated, optimized, or burned out. Every time leadership talks about “resources” instead of people, it chips away at the humanity of the workplace.
Is the company match to the 401k vested immediately or is there a length of time you have to wait?
@267d that may be true but Socialism never worked either.The younger generation "seems" to want "someone" to take care of them. They feel a degree in some feel good degree is worth as much as an Engineering degree. Sorry to tell them it's not. You get paid what you're worth.
As for companies taking advantage of workers, I'll give you that. Started in the 80's with the Junk bonds and the Corporate raiders. Raid the pensions and leave the workers holding the bag of sh-t. Happened to a few friends at Tappens, they came out with the first microwave and got drowned out by cheap imports.
At the end of the day, you still need to take care of yourself and not expect any help from anyone else.
@269c there goes ICP for 2025. What they should do is take 1% from EVERYONE and give it to the family. That would mean more than a letter with "We're sorry for your loss".
Most depressing place I’ve worked. RTO has nothing to do with it.
Better yet, set a scheduled power off of you PC at the end of the day. No excuses then to just get up and leave.
@263g Set an 7 hour 55 minutes alarm the moment you sit down at work with you phone. When it goes off, wrap up, lock your PC and leave. Don't give the company a minute more than they are paying you for. It would be funny as heck to hear all the alarms going off at the end of the day with people leaving soon after.
Contractor fatality in Tulsa yesterday morning.
Some Americans are losing faith in capitalism, with lower percentages expressing positive views of it than in previous years. This decline in faith is linked to concerns about the distribution of wealth, wage stagnation, and feeling exploited. Younger generations and supporters of the Democratic party show more enthusiasm for socialism than capitalism.
Reasons for declining faith:
Wealth Inequality:
A significant portion of the population feels that capitalism benefits a small elite while leaving the majority behind.
Wage Stagnation:
Many workers are struggling to keep up with rising living costs, leading to a sense that capitalism is not delivering on its promise of upward mobility.
Lack of Control and Engagement:
A large portion of American workers feel disengaged from their jobs and lack control over their schedules.
Feeling Exploited:
Some workers feel they are being exploited by their employers, who are prioritizing profits over their well-being.
RTO = layoff
Recent former employee too, left because of the lack of appreciation/promotion opportunities at AEP, let alone the changing culture, and lack of employee retention. Bill was asked that same question earlier this year, and he dodged it.. clearly tells you what was his plan all along! The RTO was just the final straw… its a sinking ship! I hope there are enough lifeboats for everyone!
I agree. Just focused on RTO since it’s next Monday.
Without employees, CEOs are un-necessary. If we want to get rid of Bill, we all just have to stay home until the corporate board is forced to fire him. Sometimes you have to fail to succeed.
Recent former employee here — RTO was not the reason I left. It was because of those other reasons mentioned (not feeling valued, talent hemorrhaging, culture nosedive, etc.). Not having to go back to the office five days a week is just an added bonus! No regrets.
Bill said we have a lot of work coming so that's why we need to RTO.
But really it's the exact opposite, if we have a lot of work coming that means you should do whatever it takes to retain employees. Not push them out the door. Bill's excuse is flimsy and falls apart under the slightest scrutiny. It is obvious that he lied. If he lied about this he is capable of lying about anything else. We have a CEO we cannot trust and who does not have our best interests at heart.
I dont think RTO is the only reason. How about no growth, neopotism, respectful work environment, layoffs, restructuring, high turnove & etc.
I'm curious how many employees have resigned or will resign due to RTO. It keeps getting posted that folks are leaving, but I'm not in a position to see an approximation, nor do I know anyone who has. Does anyone have intel on what has been happening?
Sure. Go find a new Remote job like many of us have done already. Not sure what is so hard?
anyone have tips or plans on how to make RTO not the worst thing in the world after getting hired for a remote job and working 5 years remotely lolololol
Does AEP have the veteran wall, where if you are a vetersn your name is put on it. I wish they would remove my name. Azz wholes
“So stop complaining about it and do something about it, either bring it up to your boss or HR. Or leave.” — exactly what I’d expect a tone deaf member of leadership to say. Stop with the false “empowerment” illusion! You’ve fired people for less!
I’m not going back. I’m working from home and ignoring RTO. They can fire me.
I'm so stressed out all the time here I never know what is going to happen. I wake up every day expecting to be fired or something. I feel a total disconnect from management and leadership. I have no insight into what they are thinking. It's like being trapped in a cave with a wolf.
How many employees will quite quit? I think a lot have already. Most high performers have already left. Employees that wont leave for certain reasons will do the bare minimum. How is AEP going to keep heigh performers? If there was not a problem at AEP, this thread would not exist. AEP is not a company that I would want to waist my whole life working at. So much better places.
Looks to me a lot of people already took his advice and quit. The ones that stayed behind either can't or won't leave for various reasons minus those folks that were forced out. Maybe for a lot of you, the point where you tell AEP to shove it has not been reached. So stop complaining about it and do something about it, either bring it up to your boss or HR. Or leave.
@25xp
"If you don't like it, quit" was something a lot of women like me heard in the eighties (or earlier) when we started working. If we had followed that advice, how hostile would work environments be to women now? Give me a break.
There are things that don't happen in the workplace anymore for a reason, and things like discrimination, unwanted advances and shtty managing have hidden behind that "if you don't like it quit" BS for as long as I can remember. Get b*nt.
Why should we all have to quit just because some dum--ss CEO made a completely unnecessary decision that makes our lives worse. Here's an idea how about Bill quits.
@25xp @25xp I just have to say this: “Recourses” doesn’t make the statements in this forum less true or valid. Yes there are hundreds of alternatives at any given time, however, that doesn’t invalidate the experiences of good people who show up to work and have to deal with power plays from leadership. (And don’t even get me started with Bill thinking everyone is crying victim) I get so put off when people say “just quit”. Me quitting doesn’t make the reality everyone is experiencing right now at AEP less true!
@25x0 Don't like it, sell your stocks. If you don't like it, get a new supplier or go off grid. If you don't like it, get a new job. There are always recourses to companies that you have an issue with
If shareholders profit from the crimes committed by the CEO of a corporation, are they accomplices in his crimes? If they condone and encourage the behavior of a Hedge Fund manager, who conspires with the CEO of a corporation he holds stock in to defraud employees and customers, are they not accomplices? If the CEO commits crimes by defrauding employees and customers and federal and state government officials do nothing and accept political campaign contributions from said CEO and Hedge Fund manager, are they not guilty of collusion and profiting from the criminal activity they condone and empower. At what point do private citizens and constituents have no choice but to seek their own justice?
This company is becoming an absolute nightmare. Losing employees left and right. Understaffed and overworked. Not the culture it used to be either. Everything is downhill at an exponential rate. Bill and the board stripping it apart for every last penny they can take and will dump AEP in the end. We all know Icahns past and I see him doing it to AEP right now. Let the job search begin…
@25kg
I'm not so sure, if the company was healthy, we would not have had the turn over in employees as well as senior executives. We seem to be rudderless, we don't know where we're going or how we're going to get there.
Explain to me like a young child what Bill or any of the new leadership team is doing to actually make the company successful. I don't see it, I really don't.
I'd take Draper or Morris back before having the likes of Bill running the company.
The other guy was right, it's like a slow death from cancer and there is nothing any of us can do about it. The levers of power are with Bill and the Board. Based on what I've seen, it's now if the company will fail, it's just a matter of when
To have confirmation that AEP executives are the antithesis of patriotic, selfless Americans and serve only themselves and their insatiable greed demonstrates their unworthiness and unfitness to lead our employees and to serve our customers. For virtue-less un-American corporate tyrants like you to control a monopoly providing an essential service to Americans is the optima of tyranny, injustice and criminality. It illustrates the abhorrent moral decay of corruption that pervades our government and corporate institutions. AEP employees and customers deserve better than highly educated common criminals and thieves.
Actually, the cancer analogy is spot on. When you prey upon your employees and customers with the same callous indifference untreated cancer demonstrates to its human hosts, you are nothing more than a malignancy that weakens the host until he or she expires. It is time to remove this malignancy from the body of AEP for our own survival.