Thread regarding 3M layoffs

Yet another restructuring at TEBG!

TEBG is constantly restructuring. It feels like no one can make up their minds on how to function.
How long will the games continue? The morale can't get any lower than this.


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@1sz
That lab mgr from CRPL will be one of the reason EBO will go down. He is another proof of a CRL manager who did nothing to go up the ranks. May be they wanted to get rid of him from CRL

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@OP
SV the yawner, SP the yapper have spoiled the TEBG with lack of leadership and ownership, EBO a 20 year old work, will face a lot during manufacturing scale up. Wower can’t Wow LinkedIn with just this

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Post ID: @1yr+1m0bnkd5t

SP…what a joke…about time…how survived this long ?

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Post ID: @1wf+1m0bnkd5t

Oh wow, look at all these new management layers popping up in the shiny new EBO organization at TEBG! Because what every fresh business division really needs is a mountain of managers, right? I mean, who cares if it’s already bursting at the seams with leadership?

From my cozy little corner supporting this program as a hands on worker bee (indirectly, of course), I can tell you the poor worker bees are drowning in work. But hey, why add more hands on deck when we can just add more bosses to boss around?

And the cherry on top? Snagging a Senior Lab Manager from CRPL with a whopping two direct reports. Because clearly, that’s the pinnacle of efficiency and necessity. Bravo!

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Post ID: @1sz+1m0bnkd5t

@d6 great he is out

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Post ID: @1qf+1m0bnkd5t

Steve v - mmm dead wood, good he is out.

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Post ID: @1jx+1m0bnkd5t

@1eb Bendy is out fishing in LinkedIn ocean. Nobody has bit on the bait

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Post ID: @1j5+1m0bnkd5t

With every meeting about this restructuring, I'm WOWer'd more than the last. Bendy is the best, clearly this will fix all our problems and was totally not just some half baked last ditch effort to justify a position...

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Post ID: @1eb+1m0bnkd5t

@18w you think SV was bad to work for you should have been under SP. about time both are gone.

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Post ID: @19q+1m0bnkd5t

@18n not accurate

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Post ID: @19p+1m0bnkd5t

@18w 1000000% agree

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Post ID: @19n+1m0bnkd5t

Did any of you clowns bi--hing watch the town hall? The HR lady did a good job of describing the changes and exactly what’s different. If you don’t know or understand it’s because you don’t want to understand and you just want to complain. Even an elementary student could have understood what was explained.

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Post ID: @19m+1m0bnkd5t

TEBG is truly in a mess. Morale of its employees are dropping like a rock. Looks like AIP will be cr@ppy for this year payout

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Post ID: @18x+1m0bnkd5t

@d6
Good that Sleepy Steve was shown the door. Should have happened a couple years back. Unbelievably weak leadership skills but somehow flourished to climb the ladder so high - may be because of his Dad was an ex- 3Mer. All floating in 3M money

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Post ID: @18w+1m0bnkd5t

Full of sh!t. She just emptied her bowels.

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Post ID: @18v+1m0bnkd5t

@OP
Good. More RSUs for Wower

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Post ID: @18t+1m0bnkd5t

2 years ago they decided to
merge commercial graphics & transportation claiming there was synergy.

Now they decided to split up again. Essentially undo the prior actions.

#challengeaccepted

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Post ID: @18n+1m0bnkd5t

the reorg is nothing but smoke blown up the hind ends of leadership by a consultant who promises it will increase sales and innovation

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Post ID: @18h+1m0bnkd5t

What value does this whole reorganisation bring to our customers ? Can someone explain ?

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Post ID: @18f+1m0bnkd5t

@158 The situation is reminiscent of the corporate labs reorganization roughly twenty years ago, when 3M eliminated its technology centers. At the time, the CTO (Ihlenfeld) stated that “there is nothing new left to invent in adhesives,” concluding that dedicated adhesives technology development was unnecessary. The adhesives technology center was dissolved, and its highly capable scientists were reassigned to different divisions.

Four years later, a new CTO (Palenski) proclaimed adhesives represented a major growth opportunity for 3M and created an adhesives “cluster” within CRML. By that point, however, many of the company’s top adhesives scientists had already left, and 3M had effectively lost four years of progress in adhesives research. Despite these outcomes, both CTOs were generously rewarded for their "strategic" decisions at the time, receiving substantial RSU and stock option grants.

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Post ID: @17f+1m0bnkd5t

@15a I am not sure what you are referring to but lately there has been an usually strong push to complete ethics training from the top leaders.
Made stop and think , why this strong a focus at a time when such big, fundamental changes are taking place.
It felt fishy.

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Post ID: @15k+1m0bnkd5t

@133 can you or anyone please elaborate on what’s going on in legal, regarding “ Trade compliance and ethics are the latest toys being thrown around in hopes that the broken pieces can be glued together.”.

Do we have new legal problems arising? Or is it some biz “strategy” that is borderline legal? Thanks ahead of time for any info

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Post ID: @15a+1m0bnkd5t

“they refused to acknowledge that it is actually back to "division". Just change of the nomenclature”

That’s because whenever you need to go back to the old way of doing something, you must NEVER sell it that way. You sell it as being the ALL NEW way of doing something. Going back to the “old way” will never ever get approved. It makes the leadership feel important to approve something “all new” and usually they have no idea it’s just going back to the old way. 😂

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Post ID: @158+1m0bnkd5t

@11f remaining are 4 product verticals, which they refused to acknowledge that it is actually back to "division". Just change of the nomenclature

Vertical = Division

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Post ID: @14y+1m0bnkd5t

@136, iykyk.
Based on your lack of organizational knowledge, you have been identified as a high potential employee for the HR organization and will be promoted to at least a VP. This is exactly the mindset we expect of our hr leaders. Clueless, cheerless, careless.

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Post ID: @139+1m0bnkd5t

@133 who is PFAS bro sleepy Steve?

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Post ID: @136+1m0bnkd5t

Same on the functional side. Lots going on with clueless leaders in legal. Trade compliance and ethics are the latest toys being thrown around in hopes that the broken pieces can be glued together. Another gem from McKinsey under Nexus. And pfas bro, sleepy Steve is bringing his unique brand of “do what I say, not what I do” to “disrupt” cause you know, that’s what bros do… and get paid over 1 mil to do that.

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Post ID: @133+1m0bnkd5t

@qb

what are the resulting/remaining divisions, please?

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Post ID: @11f+1m0bnkd5t

This restructuring excercise reduced the number of TEBG presidents from 6 to 4. Although there are questions why there is a need to carve out a separate vertical for Transportation??

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Post ID: @qb+1m0bnkd5t

I guess the 30 or so of us that were laid off in may dont count?

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Post ID: @q3+1m0bnkd5t

What is the difference in Product vertical led structure, as compared to Division led ~~2 years ago?

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Post ID: @pv+1m0bnkd5t

With the rapidly slowing down of sales, there are going to be extreme pressure for the cost controls especially from Q4. Sit tight folks.

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Post ID: @he+1m0bnkd5t

Layoffs are coming do more with less that the new way of life at 3M.

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Post ID: @hc+1m0bnkd5t

@d6 yawn!! Another leader that may be a nice guy but hasn’t done much to make change happen. Good time to retire.

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Post ID: @fe+1m0bnkd5t

This structure definitely makes it easier to sell parts of TEBG. Aerospace and defense is now a good candidate for sale creating shareholder value.

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Post ID: @fb+1m0bnkd5t

@f6 nope, no promotion and haven’t been promoted for years. I enjoy making an impact and being part of a great team doing good work. That’s all.

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@f5

Let me guess...you must be one of the managers who got promoted as part of the new re org. Sure life is good ! A coveted promotion just because someone got a new position or better still a new position was created just for you.

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Post ID: @f6+1m0bnkd5t

For all the complainers out there, go find something better to do. Those of us excited about the change and building better for the future wish you’d all leave. You are toxic and exhausting to be around every day. My leader is great and he’s helping us daily and makes a fun place to work. I am more energized than I have been in years.

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Post ID: @f5+1m0bnkd5t

The cards can be shuffled in any way you want, but at the end of the day nothing changes really ! 3M is a materials science and technology based company and new ideas and solutions have always come from bench level interactions. When these people are disillusioned and largely demotivated, simply shuffling positions and making superficial changes have never worked and will not work this time.

Here are some incentives for working at the bench in 3M these days that come to mind :

In no particular order ..

yearly layoffs, cuts to benefits over the years....LTIP gone for most people, no pension after 2028, measly yearly increments in paycheck, lack of growth opportunities for technical folks....., no reward for risk taking

What else comes to mind ?

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Post ID: @ex+1m0bnkd5t

Not even 2 years since the last reorg - which obviously didn't work. No mention that they got it wrong only that this is the answer to all our problems...at least for a year until they try something else. Always churn here in TEBG. I'm not so sure Steve V (DEPP) was ready to retire. After spending the past year doing 2 jobs (leading China and DEPP), they thanked him by showing him the door. Interesting.

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