Thread regarding Verizon Communications Inc. layoffs

Sooner than anyone thinks, the call goes out to India—pick up the phone—and no one answers. Crisis, sabotage, war. Offshoring built fortunes for globalists and stripped the rest of us bare. When it falls, it won't fall piece by piece. The whole structure comes down at once.

@bv The OP's point is that all three are laying people off in the US and hiring them there because it now recognized as the tech hub of the world and it even sounds like they are suggesting that makes them superior. Hard to believe with everything failing after the handoff. Not sure that can be sustainable in the long run. At some point they will have to provide support or a product that actually works better that what they are replacing and so far I haven't seen anything that even works let alone works as well as what is being replaced.

Huh? Both AT&T and T mobile have conducted multiple rounds of workforce reductions in the timeframe you posted. I’m not even sure what point you are attempting to prove but all three companies are slashing costs and reducing workforce. You are literally on a layoff website, try viewing the t mobile and AT&T forums here

India is not a hub of innovation. It's a tech sweat shop.

@a9 and @bq I thought I was the only one experiencing this. I can't think of many if any processes that were automated and working that aren't now being done manually because they broke after being handed off to the offshore teams. All aspects of the manual effort to keep systems running are being downplayed or covered up and replaced with messaging that suggests automation is working great after being sent offshore.

It's getting harder to tell what is the truth and what is fiction around here.

@a9 I second this and add my take.

My experience has been that Verizon is definitely doing the same thing. I have been bounced from team to team over the last couple of years training teams in India to do my team's job only to find out that they were then training AI to do the job we had just trained them to do. Seems like we are all going to get the shaft in the end. Some sooner than others.

The shift to India appears to be only to show an immediate operational costs savings since the work can be done for pennies on the dollar. Ironically, the teams in India have had many layoffs and changes over the last couple of years as well which means they have had to start over every few months because the previous team never told the new team what they had already been trained on.

Also, every system that has been handed off was a previously working system that no longer works. So your comment of things getting destroyed checks out. When that has been pointed out to management the response is that it is known and understood but that is what senior leadership wants.

I can't find a way to say that where it sound like a rational and sane decision. But it is a fact, none the less.

You must not work with people from India very often. They aren’t a strategic value or differentiator. T-Mobile has a horrible digital presence and technology team. I know I’ve worked for them for a long time. At one point in the early 2010s they were ahead of the curve. However, once they made the upfront investment they sent everything to India and they destroyed it. Very similar to what happens at Verizon, we make big technical investments to improve operations or our customers experience and a few weeks after roll out we offshore it so India can destroy it. Then our investment doesn’t yield anything. India and big consulting are the problem. Small effective agencies and well organized teams or employees are the answer and what would make a company win. T-Mobile and AT&T are low bars. We could easily beat them. We just need to get rid of this plague first.

Say you are Indian without Saying you are a Indian loool