Whenever layoffs, AI initiatives, reorganizations, or offshoring happens, people instantly blame H‑1B workers, even though the data doesn’t support it. Elevance Health has hired only about 2500 H‑1B employees over the last decade, yet every corporate shift somehow gets pinned on them instead of the real drivers like executive cost‑cutting, leadership chasing AI efficiency, org‑chart reshuffles, and internal politics behind promotions.
Blaming H‑1Bs is just the easiest narrative people grab when they don’t want to confront how corporate strategy actually works.
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@nc - no different than a text. Your skill issue, not some conspiracy. 🙄
Just a side note, may I ask how some folks are able to insert emojis in the middle of their posts? I think the majority, if not all the rest of us do not have that capability on this site. Which once again makes me think that the operators that work for this owner’s of this layoff site are adding their own posts to try and raise the temperature, as it were.
@n9 Oh, we mist definitely know what is taking place by the executives of these large for-profit corporations and we know the why. Regarding that, we are not naive. But it doesn’t make it right. But as the unemployment rate of American citizens ticks upwards of 30% someday soon, hopefully enough of them will have the backbone to peacefully fight back, with berating these executives on social media, writing or calling congressman, hold rallies with signs, sue them, anything that is peaceful but lets them know we are not going to sit back and take this without peacefully fighting back.
@gt unpatriotic move - please they make financial moves that help their need for greed - you honestly think this is anything else - if someone can do the same job for less - then the goal is met -not rocket science.
@k9 - the people a century ago had to go through 💩 to get to America … and then build something. It’s was this weeding out process that ensured immigrants pledge allegiance to our flag and contributed to the success of our nation. Now they hop on a plane, take a nap, eat a meal and have a high paying job when they land. We are not getting the best of the best, we get the best exploiter’s.
@k9 I’m not trying to be mean to you and I actually feel for you. But I am sure if the shoe was on the other foot and we were in India and you were trying to work and feed your family, then your company let you go and replaced your role with me, because I would work for less money, you would not like that.
Especially, if you served in the military for your nation during a war and you followed all the rules worked hard and suddenly you saw in droves Americans taking alp the Indian jobs. And now you and your family are in a real financially bad position.
I am sure you can relate, as to how that would make you feel towards the Indian company you worked for that is now betraying its own Indian citizens by pushing them out because they can find non-Indian citizens (e.g., Americans) to work for cheaper that are on an H-1B Visa, or whatever the work visa in India would be called.
@k9 Becoming a United States Citizen is not the purpose of H-1B Visas.
I am all for immigrants seeking to legally become an American citizen. But go through the front door in applying for citizenship. Don’t try to sneak in the back door, using H-1B Visas as a front.
H-1B Visas were intended to be a very rare stop gap to fill positions where no American could be found that qualified for the role. We have PLENTY of Americans that qualify for the roles being filled by H-1B Visas holders. Furthermore, H-1B Visas were intended to just be temporary, not intended to lead to permanent residency.
Lastly, how many of the H-1B Visas persons plan on ever serving in the military to defend America? I served, will you?
@gt "We would feel the same way if it was some Non-American Citizen “white” person from Australia or Germany or Norway taking our jobs."
America is a land of immigrants, people who built this nation. Many came here from different countries through different means. H1b is one such route and that visa is dual intent. H1b came here legally. Stay legally, work legally.
If the people lived before a century had the exact thought as yours, you would not be here.
One H1-B hire opens up 20-30 offshore hires. American’s complain about the lack of basic skills and reasoning from offshore. An H1-B helps spin it and hides the fact that the 20 -30 hires could be replaced with one or two good American hires. One of the H1-B’s responsibilities is to ensure the India First agenda is carried out, or risk being replaced with someone who will.
@gp This has absolutely NOTHING to do with the color of anyone’s skin. It has to do with a corporation replacing American Citizen workers with Non-American Citizen workers.
We would feel the same way if it was some Non-American Citizen “white” person from Australia or Germany or Norway taking our jobs.
Also, we are not upset with the Indians or Philippines, as they are just trying to make a living. We are upset with the corporation and their unpatriotic move to replace American Citizens with Non-American Citizens.
This keeps getting said over and over and over but somehow the race card and skin color card keeps getting played, which is completely erroneous as to the real stated concern.
It’s always a step away - they hire companies who hire the h1b so they’re not doing it. I don’t blame the workers generally they just want to do good for their families too. It’s just not a minor population which is very evident.
Methinks the OP doth protest too much. A quick stroll around any of the bigger offices tells the real story. We’re being sold out by snakes (and a rat).
People, probably leaders and HR, are flat out lying about the extent H-1B Visas are being used. Just as you said, you can see it with your own eyes. Of course, remote work helped cover up the lies but before remote work and also since the beginning of return to the office mandates, our very eyes do not lie and tell us the truth.
The same lie about H-1B being minuscule is being told also by Humana, Cigna, Centene, and Optum. I think my United as well.
Watch, my post here, just as yours did, will receive many downvotes to seek to justify their lies. I actually think some of the lies and downvotes come directly from the owner’s of this Layoff website, strangely enough.
All I know is that I go into my office and, suddenly, I’m a minority.
Amazing, a group that is a few percentage point of our population is the majority of so many teams.
The probability of this naturally occurring is approximately zero.
Actually it’s offshoring, primarily to India that’s the problem.
America first!