Thread regarding Chevron Phillips Chemical layoffs

@6qe more like p66 will sell to chevron and chevron will look more like exxon every day

@6pf some of these comments are obserd. We worked, we got paid well, we were let go, we got severance (which no one has yet mentioned) depending on tenure and then they have us the “oportunity” to find a new job!!!! Lets just move on. For all we know, the company may not be there in 2 years and then no one will get a package.

Good luck to everyone and lets try to stay positive.

Salamalickem

@6ff who is this G good night since I can't check anymore? Was she in IT?

@6ph additionally its (texas warn act) over a 90 day window so 90 days from now the 130 of us who were cut no longer count against the next wave. Quick like a bandaid may have been better but many
small cuts will take its mental toll for those who remain.

@6pg at least 300 layoffs but if the follow their parent Chevron, probably closer to 900. Do the math. How much did they say they needed to save? Average how much most employees cost per head. That will give you the total number of layoffs.

@6pf If you’re laid off in Texas, it’s important to know if you can get unemployment benefits. The Texas Workforce Commission (TWC) handles these benefits, which are meant to help people who lose their jobs through no fault of their own. These benefits offer temporary financial support while you search for a new job.

@6pg it’s a horrible situation and I’m not sure I’d say it has been managed or communicated well, but I’d be shocked if they intend to meet WARN criteria and failed to file or did not know they needed to. Certainly just personal speculation, but I believe total layoffs will be below 500 (an additional 370)

@6pc…the person led with “there’s a possibility…” so without knowledge of how many more layoffs are planned to take place, one cannot rule out if the WARN notice was violated or not. So the message was not incorrect, they were just trying to educate us on something that many of us were not aware of. My only problem is now we’re giving HR free knowledge and now they’ll more than likely file their notice on Monday.

@6pa This is another good reason to take your paperwork to an attorney. If CPChem did violate the WARN Act by not giving 60 days notice, you would, according to what I read and if I understood it correctly, be owed back pay/benefits.

@6pc…right, but that’s assuming that the layoffs were complete on yesterday 😊

@6pa incorrect. WARN criteria are:

1) plant closure
Or
2) mass layoff impacting more then 500 jobs
Or
3) layoffs of more than 50 when that is also more than 33% of the workforce

None of this criteria were triggered.

There’s a possibility that they may have violated the WARN Act by not informing TWC of the layoff within 60 calendar days. If 50+ people were impacted by the layoff(s), then per the link below Chevron Phillips is in violation!
Just select the year 2025 and search for Chevron Phillips.

https://www.twc.texas.gov/data-reports/warn-notice

If you’re unfamiliar with the WARN ACT, go to ChatGPT and ask about it or Google it.

@6ff get your facts straight and stop spreading salacious gossip

Every group is to be cut from HQ to the plants.

@6kh this is the craziest part.. how much is it for people to ship their computers and badges back, AND have their belongings packed up and shipped to their houses?!

@6h6 you got to keep your job and act like its all bad for you. Many of us wish we were in your shoes. Hope they get rid of your a-s too

So when are layoffs coming for us at manufacturing sites…?

@6kc imagine calling someone a coward and not “handling things face to face” when they were literally let go via a teams meeting. Gotta be an HR corporate bootlicker or one of the people responsible for these decisions.

@6kc Caring by choice at its finest. They do lose intellectual juice when they let long term people go or je-k them around.

People are losing their jobs because upper management treated this place like a party. Expensive HQ, poor performance, buddy system, breaking rules they would never allow those beneath them to.

The board needs to really evaluate the leadership in place.

I wonder if Elliot investors has seen this?

@6k6 Reading your response. I think CPChem will be absolutely fine getting rid of the “ intellectual” capital like you. People like you are cowards, who would rather rant it on an anonymous forum than voicing your concerns face to face when you have the opportunity to do so and when it matters….

@6hj Honestly, a lot of this leaked out at HQ yesterday (7.30). I heard details from various people on the IC level all day, and this post is consistent with what I heard.

@6h6 Announcement is today or actual layoffs begin?

I do wish someone went all Jerry Maguire and messaged the whole company with all the info, pictures of the indiscretion, and any other dirt they had. Then mic dropped on their way out.

@6h6 you sure do know a lot of details before any of this information has been shared. They haven’t even started communicating with individuals today yet. You are really showing your cards now. Be careful.

Today is the day for BT. Things will look very different going forward, almost unrecognizable. The org chart does not make sense unless you understand that all the daily operations will be outsourced to LTI. Many managers are gone or have been stuffed into some new group that appears like they wanted to keep them but didn’t know where to place them. Some managers simply got demoted to analyst level work. Entire teams are gone. Some people from facilities are now reporting to HQ, and some from HQ are being moved to facilities. I wonder how many who have been kept will soon retire anyways. The SEE Office somehow survived and is actually the largest team in the department, go figure. It’s tough to process these changes after being with the company as long as some of us have, and it will be difficult for those who remain to adjust to this new way of working. For those getting bad news today, you are all in my thoughts and I honestly feel some heartbreak for many of you that I’ve worked with for so long. For those who get to stay, I sure hope we get to see a better CPChem again one day. Good luck out there everyone.

@6fp it can only be a guess that you represent HR. No one likes the attitude that better decisions should and could have been made? Sounds like you took their post personal about it being toxic!

@6f1 i sure hope you are one the ones that gets let go. No one likes your “toxic” attitude.

@6f1 excellent advice! A wise man once said “remember this…HR can never help you but can always hurt you” they are the last people anyone should go to! G good nights crew was getting their own lawyer due to their treatment but yet she’s still here. Such a joke - this needs to be posted around the office lol- and the one downvote was HR for sure because this is a great post

This is Chevron Phillips HR 100%. Toxic toxic toxic. No doubt in my mind this is why layoffs are happening. The keys to the kingdom were given to the people who never deserved it.
Look at all the sites and their skeletons. HQ, Cedar and Borger have been on everyone’s lips for the last few years of all the HR disasters there. What company demotes a manager twice (once as a supervisor, once as a manager) and keeps them on in a made up position to basically counsel the Plant and Ops manager. A position they are not qualified for at all and then creates havoc and problems mostly out of desperately trying to appear relevant.
Why does that person get protected?

That cost several positions, loss of production, loss of productivity, dominos over time.

HR will always protect the bully, not the victim, in a toxic workplace.

Here's how they do it:

1. You make a formal complaint.

2. HR listens and takes notes, just enough to appear concerned.

3. HR reassures you: "You're in good hands", "We'll take this seriously" or "We'll investigate".

4. HR speaks to the bully who denies, downplays or manipulates the facts.

5. If HR brings in an external investigator, they interview everyone. The external investigator gives HR their report. If the findings support you, HR may ignore the report especially if the bully is in leadership or brings in money.

6. HR reframes your complaint as a "miscommunication" or "personality clash".

7. HR tells you to keep working with the bully.

8. Time passes, and suddenly, you become the problem. Your tone. Your performance. Your "resilience".

9. You're put on a Performance Improvement Plan, sidelined, excluded or quietly managed out.

Before you meet with HR, remember this:

1. Think twice about going. Meeting with them might not help and could make things worse.

2. Document every incident like dates, times, what was said, how it made you feel and who witnessed it. Keep it off work devices. Don't email evidence to yourself. Take photos on your phone instead.

3. If you do meet, bring a support person. Someone who can take notes. Never go alone.

In toxic workplaces, HR doesn't protect people. They protect the company at your expense.

Repost this. Someone you know needs it

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@68z IT begins...

@66a you speak 100% Truth! Best post of the day! CPChems HR dept is a flipping joke- time they are called out

@65g Just take a look at the org chart. HR is one of the largest organizations on it, m cella continues to build an empire of do nothings to add layers between her and the actual human resources. All the while breaking the same code of conduct that they force the rest of us to sign in blood, sweat and tears every year. Yet is there any fat to be trimmed from these layers? Of course not. It’s impossible to spin a deceitful narrative of positive company culture without the army of spin doctors. The more the HR organization has grown over the past few years, the worse the company culture gets. It’s a direct correlation. You don’t need to “protect the company” to this level when the company is doing the right things.

@65a You have it completely wrong. HR is there to protect the company yes. You seem to have it divided into Executives then everyone else. HR is there to create an ethical workplace, free of harassment, and discrimination so that the company does not get sued. The executives also can be a liability for the company to get in trouble.
What you described is what’s wrong. The way you say it HR dept does work in favor for executives and that creates a workplace out of alignment with keeping the company out of trouble. At that point they are just about keeping the regular employees down.
Reading these post I am certain if there was a deep dive into HR there would be some oh my goodness moments.
Just read the post. Even if 90% of it is wrong that other 10% is wild enough.

@652 Not that I'm defending CPChem's HR department, but except for the tangled mess Success Factors and our LMS are, I don't think our HR department is any more sinister or incompetent than any others. I've actually seen A LOT worse. (Girl, just wait for my memoir to come out!) HR departments protect the company and its establishment. NOT the employees, not ever. Quit clutching them pearls over that.

iCare is just another version of "Culture by Design," which is merely a recruitment tool (until the jackals figure out a way to we-ponize it, which I have also seen.) I actually think a few of our LT and LTE members try to lead by that example. That's rare. HR should be the bastion and champion of whatever Culture by Design the company adopts but they almost never are. It's incompatible with their actual mission -- mitigate all measure of risk to the company and its leaders. It's almost never to actively create a healthy workplace with ethical standards and accountability for anyone, from CEO on down. I've seen that only once, and the jackals in the company undermined all checks and balances and waited for the "good guys" to fail. Spoiler alert: They did.

@63t out of all of the places I’ve ever worked this HR department is the worst. Rude, unhelpful, and lazy - do they even work? The mean girls need to at least give the appearance of working but they are way too comfortable- board needs to do something about this waste of resources

Good ol Chevron Phillips ICARE at work. If HR doesn’t like what you are saying try and scare you into stop saying it. They aren’t “tracking” anything. Sure if you used your company device they could see you went here and then spend an extreme amount of time trying to figure out what you wrote. He-l I can’t even figure out what I’ve wrote on here so good luck with that. The rest of it is just to scare you. They obviously dropped enough of a scare out there to significantly slow this thread down. The several other threads across the internet are going on strong. I’m guessing they haven’t got to those people yet.

What can they do if they’ve been “watching”??
To prove some kind of slander they’d have to prove it wasn’t true. I’d love to watch HR explain why they shoved the hotline call with the pic under the table, then see how many other investigations that they manipulated incorrectly? Just that alone says something was amiss potentially.
Is it a lie to say they built pickle ball courts? No because they did.
Is it a lie to say the last several years of operations has gone down hill?
Is it a lie to say there has been the buddy system in place for the last years that has bloated the spans and layers?
Is it a lie that people feel like HR is full of bullies?
God you could go on and on. However instead of taking the time to listen to all of this and correct it, they’ve spent more energy here trying to suppress it than turn the company around.

I don’t care if they are tracking me; I used VPN and they barely have some good people in their IT, so good luck with that. Those ICARE values that they preach are useless if the SVP and the head of HR are f**king in the office.

Yes, exactly. They’ve been checking the LinkedIn profiles of employees they suspect have been posting comments. This is further confirmation that they are bullies!

Yea I think IT will be completely outsourced in the next few years with a few left to lead and manage offshore. I have started looking for a new job, the market isn’t great but when you look at Chevrons open jobs they are mostly in India. That’s probably our future IMO

My guess is they will get rid of the low performer and a lot of the top talent will leave.