IT, Finance and Commercial are expected to layoff ~300 people in 2 waves starting with IT in early Q3 2025. A majority of operational support for IT will be moved to outsourced providers. Major IT restructuring will be done using the “spans and layers” concept suggested by BCG to reduce management layers.
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@5qf
That's not what was said. Yes, Spans and Layers is exactly what you said, but what was said is that ALL of IT. Managers and SMEs will be gone, and the business needs handed over to an outsource provider in total. Someone who can draw upon a world if experts to cover whatever problems arise. All for one low low price. Maybe as she said there would be room for retention bonus or transitioning that might keep a few employees for a short period of time to explain things like what unit 1592 means, or how to properly say Borger, but not one second longer... I leave room to be surprised, but it's unlikely. Go back and watch her video. She says exactly what will happen and why.
@5j3 that’s exactly right. Get the engineers to top pay quickly so they won’t want to leave. That was HR’s brilliant way of retaining talent. Then the person asking how we know engineers aren’t on chopping blocks is also right. They put engineers in so many roles that they should not be in they would absolutely have to be on the chopping block.
Then the person who explained spans and layers. Since when has Chevron Phillips ever completed a task the way it was designed? Every time we watched them implement a new system they had to put their spin on it, their ideas, their wants. That’s from software, to operational theories, and beyond.
This was not always a bad company. Like 90% have said. It’s been about 6 years with this regime that’s in play. It is painfully obvious can full of himself wasn’t the guy for the job he’s in. He hasn’t done it well. He even hired 2 extra layers (span and layers) to over see the plant managers between him. According to this those 2 guys are gone. Caba loco has drove the culture of this company into a toxic mess so big that it makes flint hills people call their water clean. You can’t have an inept operations leader and a Hr person who leads a mean girls team and the company survive very long.
@5n3 Based on "spans and layers" organizational design — which reduces the number of managers and "flattens" the org chart — managers are on the chopping block. Spans = # of direct reports a manager has. Layers: # of rungs on the ladder between frontline workers and top executives. If CPChem is actually following this, they would get rid of layers of management, require managers to have more than 7 direct reports, and get rid of employees/leaders in redundant roles. Sometimes an entire layer of management is removed. For example, when George W. Bush replaced Ann Richards as governor of Texas, he stripped state agencies of their LT layers and saved Texas taxpayers $millions. So, in CPChem-speak, that was like the state agency's LTEs reporting directly to their CEOs. TBH, that would work fine at CPChem, especially in the context of Human Performance. The LTE is much closer to the actual work than the LT is. And them's some big a** salaries.
@5j3 how do you know engineers are not on the chopping block? Nothing has been announced yet. Don't make stuff up.
If you have a real job that is directly impacting the bottom line AND you perform well, you have nothing to worry about. The only ones that need to be concerned are those in BS roles (mostly in HQ) that just sit around, philosiphize, and roll out costly initiatives.
@5j3 You’re right … it’s not engineering math but it checks out.
@5fx Cool rant… however, most of the useless deadweight is in engineering and engineers in positions they’re unqualified for and will never be good at, but they aren’t the ones on the chopping block. The company could cut a 3rd as many people if they focused in the right areas. The high salary deadweight would yield them far more value in a layoff situation than cutting an entire lower pay support group. It’s not surprising though because this company has the wrong mindset when it comes to people. I’ve sat in meeting where the management teams talk about progressing 2-3 year engineers to the highest pay grades in their scales, while others take 15 years or more to get there with high output and far superior knowledge. These 22 year old engineers don’t know anything but theory and struggle with practical application, but we better get them top pay immediately! Just one more thing that doesn’t make sense … see how they add up?
Everyone who is ranting and mad is probably a lagger who knows their time is up. No more riding the wave of minimal, mediocre output while your colleagues do your job. Get back to work. Blaming others isn’t going to save you. It also won’t make you feel better. FYI. This is corporate America folks. They had a good run for many years but even the mighty fall. You’re ignorant if you through it would last. Always be prepared. Live below your means, pay off debt, grow your skills and network. If it was such a bad company to begin with why did you stay? For every finger you point at someone, there is three pointing back at you. Control your life and level up. Always be ready.
@5fn 100% there was a hotline call, with pictures. And, 100% it was covered up/ignored. B eth is nothing more than a puppet for her boss, but I’ll give her one thing, she sure knows how to manipulate an investigation to yield the exact results can’t field and his minions dictate. No such thing as unbiased fact finding, she plays judge, jury and executioner on the whims of the less capable of leading at the behest of can’t field’s high profile girlfriend.
@5bx 100% they are. The only thing a tyrant fears is change and if people start talking about what really goes on there that’s a huge change. Everyone knows to be quiet and they just leave you alone. What happens when everyone isn’t quiet.
As much as we don’t know if the can’t feild and mar chella were having one or not. You can see the fall out when leadership in company’s like the one at Coldplay are not focused on the employees.
The real question is if there was a complaint submitted was it covered up? Was it a hotline call that got covered up?
HR has created that “better not participate on that online forum” threat of fear.
And why?
Most of the employees are getting laid off anyway. What’s to fear? Let it all out and see if the board makes the right call is my opinion.
Poll: Should CIO AM be fired?
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@4pa HR is definitely reading these comments. If you notice the pattern, every time someone mentions them being bullies, mistreating our former colleague- cancer patient, or other harmful, bullying behavior like controlling the narratives of investigations, the reactions start mysteriously decreasing or getting dislikes.
@57f
You obviously don't have to worry, or else you're in the loop with inside information. Can we just all get along? Maybe, but consider this analogy. You married the one person that has proved to be reliable, trustworthy, ethical, great work ethic, and you have loved them the moment you met. You married, you complement each other completely. You both know at the end of the day, you will be together just like every night before. Together you have both grown and prospered. You have built a life, have children, everything is as good as it gets. Then, a few weeks ago, the love of your life tells you that they don't need you anymore and want a divorce. That's it, no explanation, not a care for the years of hard work. That's it, nothing else except wait for the paperwork to show up. What are you feeling now? It's what every employee that thought CPChem would be the last to betray their relationship. Do you get it now? Maybe you could communicate it better.
@57f If you want help, the antics of the unscrupulous management team need to be brought to light. HR HBIC and a certain manufacturing VP are an embarrassment to the company and the board should really take a close look at the their fearless leadership before they agree to cut the jobs of hard working people. And I do mean fearless because their jobs are not in jeopardy.
@57f you are missing the point. Those things they are venting about are likely why you are saying let’s pull together and help each other!
Maybe just maybe the board gets wind of some of these items then they do the best thing that could likely help us all.
I’m sure you can tell that maybe just maybe it’s upper management saying all the people losing their (or loosing) jobs are d-mb etc. Misspelling words on purpose, misleading, misdirecting. Pretty easy to see what they are doing.
That tells me probably all the “venting” has them spooked someone will look into what’s been going on.
@4yb its terrible some of us will loose their jobs but i am getting tired to hear the same comments: pickleball, HR romance stories, outsourcing. Let’s hear about what we can do, how can we help each other and what options do we have that we have not heard yet. Busting people's chops helps vent and only vent.
@4wf can you back that up? That is a serious statement.
@4m8 old news. No one cares anymore. Tells us something we have not heard. Otherwise your cr-p is toilet material.
@4jz most of you losers like to work from home so that you can have a second job at the same time!!
@4ft get a life looser
@535 anymore news?
@4qj I don’t doubt this post at all. I have seen this company clearly treat people differently when going through the same situation. Post your email and I can send you specifics.
@52z they said what they needed to so that everyone would be quiet.
The craziness that an IT team on the chopping block would also help the same company stop all their potential shenanigans and mismanagement come to light is astounding.
Of course HR and management put out the cease and desist order. Usually what happens when you hit close to home.
@4xe obviously, and exactly what people are being told.
@4xe the same IT that is about to be undergoing a huge layoff?
The same IT that’s losing their jobs?
That IT is the one tracking who is here and doing whatever?
Get off the koolaid.
Pickle ball courts > your job
And you believe them when they try and control the narrative ?
My money says the IT team waiting to watch their jobs go over seas don’t give a damn to report it correctly!
It’s the same IT that could get into super secret files too. Lord if I was laying people off IT would be my last lol.
@4qr IT Security is indeed tracking CPChem assets such as cell phones, Laptops, browser activities of each. If you have gone to this site using one of those assets, your already on the list.
Never use company assets for personal business, never
@42g You do realize that it's 100% her idea to outsource, offshore and layoff, right. She and IT are the test case for the rest of the company. If she succeeds, she's the new CEO. If she fails, nothing will happen. Win win, except for those who have been loyal to the company.
@4qj I hope you got a lawyer involved. I’d direct them to this page
@4qr lol tracking how? They are gonna pay the extraordinary fees to get a gossip site that allows you to post anonymous to release their info? Not a chance. It’s my guess they just want you to believe that.
You think the ceo and HR lady from the cold play concert can do anything to the cameraman at Coldplay or the lady who filmed it from her phone and sent it out?
@4nn apparently they are tracking and if you want to keep your job…
Hi everyone, hope yall are well.
While fighting cancer, HR at Chevron Phillips harassed me instead of helping me. They mismanaged my leave, failed to track my hours correctly, and demanded I pay back $13,000. They scheduled stressful meetings right before surgery and even contacted me for paperwork while I was in the ICU.
Reading others’ experiences now, I realize this wasn’t just me — it’s a toxic pattern. No one battling for their life should also have to battle their employer. This is why even in such bad condition I dragged my a-s to the office to resign. Unfortunately really, because before that I felt so committed and dedicated to CPChem.
@4nx Oh yes, two of the original HR bullies have finally retired, but not before they trained a new crop of bullies to take their place. And a few years ago, they even brought back another ignorant bully from the past. She’s here in Orange with us now, but I can tell she’s not happy…
@4mr No, but fear and intimidation is definitely the MO of this crooked HR regime. So, happy commenting everyone… management is obviously feeling like the absolute embarrassments that they are. Keep up the good work! Expose the truth for change.
@4mr and what do they plan to do with that threat? Waste money they don’t have because we can only guess top management has their feelings hurt about the way they’ve run the company in the ground?
They need to be more concerned with reversing course of the company than worrying what gets said on the internet. People are losing their jobs and they want to worry about advising people not to comment on here?
Who else has been asked if they were aware of this site and advised not to comment?
Can field and SheHR should be fired immediately for their tryst in the office. But, I know, they are senior management and nobody can touch them. They just wanna show everybody underneath them. How powerful they are hit a bunch of BS. This company has become a total sh-t show.
Does anyone know when they are going to start layoffs? Also if things don't turn around, no one will be s a f e. Can we sell the H Q building? Other companies have saved a lot of money by having their people work from home.
@4ft they can’t afford to be at the Coldplay concert!
@4ft maybe another sit and spin day?
@4bs …I thought they would be at the Coldplay concert!
@4c5 nothing on w a r n yet. Is there any news? Some people are already leaving the company. They aren't sticking around to be told they are being let go. They could save a lot of money if they cut out those who make 200k or more. How many managers do you need?