What's the worst-case scenario regarding the whole 737 Max issue? They can't ground the plane for good, so what's the next worst thing that could happen? At this time, I'm worried this might drag on for years. Which will not be good for any of us... — read more 

www.wsj.com/amp/articles/new-delays-could-keep-boeing-737-max-grounded-into-holiday-travel-season-11567376957

Whatever it is, just to know what to do next. I'm tired of all the stressing.

Many of us asked that question. I wondered it. "Why am I going to work for someone who lays off people when they do bad?". Many of us took the job. A shoddy product because they let greed blind them is costing the company. And now they might lay... — read more 

Corporate speek email has come out with reference to "realignment" Which is a code word for Layoffs. Looks like this will be an engineering layoff and not a factory floor layoff. It's going to go deep. Get your resumes updated.

None of you are clairvoyant. Are layoffs a possibility? Yes. Like in every other company. Do we know for sure they are going to happen next month or the one after that or even any time this year? No, we don't. Just do your work and relax. Stressing... — read more 

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2019-08-29/boeing-fears-737-worker-exodus-in-tightest-job-market-in-decades

Boeing (BA) stock fell 1.2% on Tuesday after a Russian aircraft leasing company filed a lawsuit to cancel orders for the troubled 737 MAX jets. A subsidiary of state-owned Russian conglomerate Rostec, ACS (Avia Capital Services) filed the suit on... — read more 

I think we can all agree by now that layoffs are coming. What I'm wondering is, what after that? Where will all the people go, considering that the entire industry is showing major signs of weakness? Is there a good alternative out there right... — read more 

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/26/investing/stock-market-insider-selling/index.html

https://www.forexlive.com/news/!/about-3000-pilots-from-12-airlines-have-joined-a-class-action-against-boeing-re-737-max-20190827

Airlines will want refunds for their deposits before they cancel. This is the route. It's why we haven't seen any cancelations. They need to build a case. https://www.ft.com/content/30a68cd4-c84b-11e9-a1f4-3669401ba76f

Does anybody feel like Boeing is currently a blind company with no direction? At least that's what it feels like to me. Like we are all stuck in time, waiting to see what's going to happen, instead of actively working toward moving things our... — read more 

Let me get this straight - there are people who honestly believe there will be no major layoffs at Boing any time soon? Is this correct? After everything that has happened? No layoffs? To be honest, I really wish I had those powers of denial... — read more 

This part of the article is especially interesting: Many in the industry seem to share this conviction—regulators will not, the thinking goes, jeopardise Boeing’s future because the company is too big to fail. Perhaps. But the faa, roundly... — read more 

I'm sure all of u us are aware of the ways in which things are conducted at Boeing, and off the wide gap between the employees and the management. In tough times like this one has to wonder when will the company pay the price of such faulty business... — read more 

1 = In the tank 5 = Sunny Skies although not often enough in Seattle

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4286602-boeing-737-max-misconceptions-engineers-view?dr=1#alt1

There isn't enough work for us as it is right now - why hire more temporary employees? To create an illusion everything is okay? What's the point?

I imagine f a person would look at Boeing from the outside it would look like a successful and stable company where work processes are developed and practiced to the highest level. To bad the truth is quite opposite. I’m working as a software... — read more 

I have been RIFed two times in the past. Have had two PIPs and two CAMs So will I survive the layoff storm brewing?

Pentagon ends Boeing 'k–l vehicle' contract, cites technical problems WASHINGTON, Aug 21 (Reuters) - The U.S. Defense Department said on Wednesday it is canceling a Boeing Co contract for a "k–l vehicle" due to technical design problems after... — read more 

What if you have had a PIP forced on you by some unfair manager who was mistreating you? I asked for a transfer from this group to get away from this unethical manager who was mistreating me but it was denied by HR. Several coworkers in this... — read more 

Why are Boeing Vice Presidents, Executives, Managers, Human Resource types and the Boeing CEO excluded from the possibility of being layed off? The Boeing manager that leads (this manager is no leader) our Group is away from our group all week... — read more 

I been issued one by HR three years ago. Does that pretty much guarantee myself being issued one of the first layoff notices? I'm hoping if layoffs hit Unemployment Benefits get extended up to a full five years after they first expire.

Such as St Louis, or Southern Calif? What do those people saying about he situation at their sites?

Layoffs may not be planned for today. Tomorrow they could be told to execute on the plans they have that would include laying off. Get your heads out your asses and think.

That's a fact. You can call me a nutcase or whatever you want - you cannot deny this. If the plane does not fly, money does not come in and at some point you have to let people go. This applies to Boeing, and any other enterprise you pick. It's a... — read more 

FYI - Boeing can issue warn notices on any date it wants too. IT IS NOT MANDATORY TO GO BY THE SURPLUS SCHEDULE. I got that from my HR generalist.

Maybe until layoffs are actually announced they are just part of the big old rumor mill alive and well at Boeing. Is Boeing required to make layoff announcements at Boeing sites outside of Washington State? Why would any Boeing sites outside of WA... — read more 

LOOKS LIKE THE 737 IS TAKING ANOTHER TOLL ON THE CONTRACTORS WORKING FOR THIS PROGRAM, MORE LATER.

my prediction for the 737 Max panned out, here's what's happens next; August Halting production for at least 60 days. Ungrade software and hardware, finally convinced the public and governments , We can trust again. Justice Department and FBI will... — read more 

From the all hands meetings that happen today and tomorrow it looks like they are gong to try to fire people over little things. PPE, automatic write up if you don't have it all on. So don't keep safety shoes in your locker, and probably keep some... — read more 

Thoughts?

In fact, most of the board was constructed from senior board members of Douglas.. This is where the culture of Boeing changed. Build airplanes and design them with cheaper outsourcing. Stonecipher believed in this philosophy and Boeing continued this... — read more 

Place your bets! I say they announce a shutdown of the production line by August 15th, to last approx 90 days.

Ideas,thoughts, feelings about thursdays All Hands meeting. Is our doom nigh ?

https://mattstoller.substack.com/p/the-coming-boeing-bailout

It cost Boeing Millions to build each 737 MAX. They don't get paid until they make delivery to the customer. They can't sustain the current production rate or employment levels for much longer. Rumor has it that there will be an announcement of a... — read more 

The issues for Boeing and the various aircraft they have recently designed and manufactured are "endless" not to mention the 300+ people that have lost their lives because of it. How does Muilenburg and the rest of his cronies keep their jobs?... — read more