Starlink is GLOBAL revenue and its subscriber numbers will continue to surpass T. There is ZERO chance that T's fiber investment will be able to compete. That is the hard truth and layoffs WILL continue. You can NOT compete with a global market after you spent decades outsourcing your labor and support to India. You need to get the word GLOBAL in your head when you think about subscriber potential . T is a has dying has been.
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@f0 I hope you see this! I’m interested in hearing much more about the h1b scams & your work in Washington. We all know that companies have abused the system for ages by replacing existing American professionals with cheaper h1b workers. In some cases, the American worker is told they must train their replacement, else they won’t receive severance pay.
I mean how absurd is that? The point of h1b is to SOURCE GLOBAL TALENT WHERE THERE IS A SHORTAGE OF LOCAL TALENT. By replacing an existing American worker with an h1b resource, you’re straight up breaking the law AND ignoring the purpose of the program. Also, by forcing the American worker to train their international replacement, YOU’RE ADMITTING YOU DIDN’T EVEN UTILIZE H1B TO HIRE A QUALIFIED INDIVIDUAL!!
I find it completely crazy that people who intentionally abuse the program aren’t in federal prison. Executives…HR…hiring managers…anyone who pushes such decisions, or holds responsibility, should be prosecuted to the fullest.
What no one mentions is how susceptible satellite technology is to things that are mostly or completely out of our control. For example, the amount of orbital debris (AKA space junk) floating around earth is astounding. Due to poor planning, lack of foresight, & carelessness, Earth now has our own rings of space junk. There’s something called the Kessler syndrome where one piece of space junk hits another piece and sets off a potentially catastrophic chain reaction. Add to that things like solar flares & coronal mass ejections from the sun, which are entirely unpredictable, and you can start to see the fragility of an orbital system whose purpose is to provide us with a service increasingly viewed as essential.
ALSO…that doesn’t take into account things like orbital sabotage, orbital theft or hacking, even “space terrorism”, which state actors (like China) could absolutely pull off.
Finally, WHEN something serious does go wrong out there, you can’t simply dispatch a tech to splice & repair the connection. You’d need some serious redundancies, or to somehow proactively solve all these problems.
Yeh, fiber isn’t “se-y” like rockets and space satellites. Starlink is a way cooler name than xfinity or att fiber, but the risks involved are ridiculous.
Plus, satellite internet is slow as molasses compared to a hard-wired fiber connection.
@a2 30-40% in my building are Indian. I felt like it worked in a India company
Yeah satellite is gonna be great for so many people but the fact remains that satellite will never be the 100% solution to not needing fiber. Musk will need to build his own fiber network to cover all of his customers all of the time or he’ll need to strike up agreements with ISPs. I don’t think T or VZ(wireline) would want to play ball with someone who is seeking to take away their wireless customers.
The government can track your iPhone also if they need to. How do you think they catch criminals via their phone when needed.
@a9 how so? T-Mobile is not part of Musk’s empire. He has no say on how they conduct day to day business.
Yall are crazy if yall think the bandwidth or speed matters at all.
The question is does Starlink allow the government to track your device 24/7 and the answer is clearly yes.
That’s all that matters. More control.
Thus the market’s investors, which are clearly bad actors, will prop up Starlink and AI until they have total information control.
“There’s no ‘forced’. We’re doing it willingly.”
Fact.
Mobility tech here. Fun fact: all of our First Net assets use Starlink for backhaul
@c4 I believe the government won’t let T fail so not sure …"
T is getting smaller and smaller (head count wise) so there is going to be a day that T going under will not create that big of a wave other than media talking about how a 150 YO company went bye-bye, kind of like Sears. Spacex is going to start buying spectrum and fiber so all of a sudden there will be another much more funding to either drive up the price of the network or outbid us for the network.
There’s no ‘forced’. We’re doing it willingly.
@ew Spectrum they just don't have it yet
@ep What's worse , a company that draws subscribers on a global scale OR a company that moved all American Jobs to India ? I'll pick the company that draws taxable revenue on a global scale, over one that has sent American jobs outside the US and was involved in the H1B scams. I've been working in Washington to get this word out, and I already know the AT&T lobby is trying to downplay these facts.
The only thing about this that matters is subscriber numbers. Starlink has 9million customers, we have 11million.
At some point Starlink will surpass our fiber penetration, but all broadband providers will lose. Its the day wireless subs go down that T will get nervous.
starlink is a globalist company ? should we be supporting globalist companies?
@d3. https://www.semafor.com/article/07/29/2026/spacex-looks-to-compete-with-the-carriers
You were saying?
@a4 Waiting for my turn!
@OP funny, someone who is a L2 coming on here and articulating how the company will run and be impacted is next level nuts.
This will have a huge impact on Public Sector which is being targeted for at least a 5% to ideally 10% reduction in force by Q4
Starlink is the excuse we’ve been looking for to convince the fcc we don’t need to provide copper services in rural America. Now we’re disconnecting all that copper and associated labor and power expense as we speak. Well probably benefit from starlink instead of being hurt. The laws of physics don’t change when it comes to radio frequencies. Our cellular network combined with our fiber network is better and the bill is cheaper than starlink even with the V3 satellites.
I hope government contracts aren’t renewed for T but then again I believe the government won’t let T fail so not sure …
It won’t be because of competition it will continue to be because of top down incompetence.
So glad you’re all rooting for the n@mb n@tz Musk.
A$$wipes!!
The V3 will be a game changer in bandwidth.
@aa Lessons Learned , it’s all about subscriber count. You can tout slower BUT if that were the case subscribers would leave but that’s not the case with count rising . You can NOT deny subscriber count. It will outgrow T and it will be global .
Forced?
It was already part of the plan?
@OP invest in SpaceX. Seems like a great idea.
While AT&T needs to improve, satellites cannot keep up with the speed of terrestrial fiber.
Don't be surprised if the government eventually forces Elon to permit wholesale of Starlink by independent providers. Leading voices within the FCC have explicitly sounded alarms regarding the lack of viable LEO competitors, publicly warning that "our economy doesn’t benefit from monopolies" and implementing regulatory transparency frameworks to lower barriers for entry for smaller satellite startups.
Satellite communication degrades with customer saturation, but we'll see. Musk has ran off T-Mobile customers with higher rates & repeat degraded service outages & now forcing customers with grandfathered plans off recently, plus all the dr-gs he's on looks like he-l lately.
Starling can’t provide the bandwidth to compete with traditional fiber and cellular. Fiber in particular blows starlink
Away as an ISP service.
Most everyone i work with WANTS to be laid off.
We install Starlink. Shhhhh.
T could not see the future even if it smacked it right in the face. They laid off all their talent for cheap imported India labor with fake degree certificates . Its shameful and deserves what is on the horizon . Word on the street is the Government contracts will not be renewed.