Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Layoff Decision Makers

I'm hoping to hear from HR professionals, former managers, or anyone who has participated in workforce reduction decisions.
Could you walk me through how a typical layoff selection process works behind the scenes at WF?
For example, if a department has 12 employees and leadership has determined that 6 positions must be eliminated due to restructuring, how is it decided which 6 employees are selected?
Some questions I'm particularly interested in are:
Who typically initiates the process and determines the layoff population?

Does the direct manager make the initial recommendations, or are employees ranked collaboratively by multiple leaders?

Who participates in calibration discussions? Are senior leaders, HR Business Partners, Legal, Employee Relations involved?

If a ranking matrix is used, who develops the evaluation criteria, and how much discretion does managers have when assigning ratings?
How are subjective factors, such as leadership potential, business impact, or future fit, evaluated and documented?

What level of evidence is expected to support a manager's ranking of each employee?

Who has final approval authority before layoff decisions are communicated?

Are decisions ever revisited if HR or Legal identifies inconsistencies or potential discrimination risks?

What documentation is typically created during the process, and how long is it retained?

Are managers instructed to avoid considering employees who are on protected leave (such as FMLA), have recently requested accommodations, or have recently filed internal complaints? If those employees are included in the layoff population, what additional review or documentation is typically required?

From your experience, what parts of the process are most heavily scrutinized if a layoff decision is later challenged in litigation or investigated by the EEOC?

I'm interested in understanding both the formal process and how it actually works in practice. If you've personally participated in these discussions, I'd appreciate any insight into who influences the decisions, what documentation is reviewed, and where the greatest amount of discretion typically exists.


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Post ID: @OP+1kz974mm1

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@kx didn't matter for me and probably countless others...Wanted to stay and couldn't do it full time remote despite me having no issues of any kind. Attendance performance etc. Was there for 24 years. Looks liked they'd help people out. You know that is a long time....

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Post ID: @17f+1kz974mm1

They put together an efficiency list of all team members. This is biased according to who the manager has chosen to lay off. Non favorites will be rated at below 100% "efficiency", meaning they are supposedly not working a full 40 hours. Favorites will be rated at above 100% efficiency, like 110 or 120. That means if you "help" someone on their project, they get the credit & you don't. This will be used to justify the layoff discussions & decisions up the chain. It's all done behind closed doors. Search for "efficiency" in Teamworks & you may find some lists.

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Post ID: @kx+1kz974mm1

There is a HR tool that managers use that helps them make elimination decisions. The list can be sorted to be viewed by their location, annual reviews, tenure, etc and the manager goes in and rank depending on the selected criteria #1 through #total number of directs. Their manager above them (or a designated administrator) validates the list, edits or suggest changes. Every layoff is different but most of the time, the determining elimination factor or how many they cut is decided from the higher ups and the direct managers don’t usually have much of a say beyond the employee ranking.

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Post ID: @kv+1kz974mm1

Its simple, typically each MD owns a head count number. Say they have 200 people, then their lords tell them, I need you to be at 150 by end of year. The MD works with their management team, to identify the 50 candidates for termination and begin the process to paper everything as best as they can to avoid any legal issues. So the excuses are just that, they will come up with any reason to make the termination come off as logical or fair. Being super tight with your boss and doing high visibility work may be the only way to survive for now. There are no guarantees, as your boss could be the next on the chopping block.

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@b0+1kz974mm1

They are either really stupid, or evil. I would tend to agree with you, that they likely aren't the former.

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Post ID: @h0+1kz974mm1

With a department of 12, where 6 must be eliminated, there are multiple potential approaches. 1- do a location assessment. If most of the team is in Charlotte, then it's likely they'll layoff the others, regardless of performance level. 2- look at and let go those who got less than meets. 3 -spans and layers, if a manager has less than 9 reports, then the team may merge and keep only 1 manager. 4- unique skill sets. Being on protected leave (FMLA) will save your job, until the protection ends. Layoff decisions are made at higher leader levels. Managers find out the day before the layoff happens, then schedule the call, and read the blurb.

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Post ID: @bs+1kz974mm1

Totally understand what you are asking.
But I doubt you can get answers here.

Before reorg, manager asked us to write down our job responsibilities, tasks we do.
I bet that's one of the reasons they pick who will get laid off.

Internal public Wells Fargo documentation also clearly says manager supposed to do the Stack raking. Then managers will sit together discuss performance rating numbers they gave , and adjust.

Manager I believe is a critical role to decide who will get picked since they know your job responsibilities and your performance.

I believe The list is reviewed with HR or legal, People on fmla will not show up on the list during the leave. People who have er case open most likely will not show up.
People who's on medical leave, They will make sure pick the legitimate reasons.

The company is not stupid, but the human make mistakes. Get manager and hr talking. the more they talk, the more mistakes they will make.

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Post ID: @b0+1kz974mm1

Great questions, OP. I have wondered the same things. Hopefully, there is someone here who can give us some behind the scenes information.

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Post ID: @ax+1kz974mm1

Simple, AI is used to decide. No human decision.

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Post ID: @ar+1kz974mm1

@a7 they did perf exercises last yr and must have ignored results

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Post ID: @aj+1kz974mm1

2 streams: 1) personal; 2) reorg

they will save the sev where they can and can't control their hatred

they will do the work of papering if the hate/threat is there

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Post ID: @ah+1kz974mm1

Not certain the answers you seek would provide you anything actionable other than your manager is the gateway to both heaven and h3ll.

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Post ID: @ac+1kz974mm1

The questions in this post would be relevant if we were operating in an objective and efficient model. The reality is that it is a popularity contest with little to no documentation (unless HR requests it) and a TON of chaos. Fake ratings, messy communication, and massive instability all around

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Post ID: @a9+1kz974mm1

Ummm...you'll get no answers and like it

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