If they will not offer it, HR should somehow get the message out. Then, those of us old farts hanging on in hopes of a package (or fear of retiring right before one is announced) could go ahead and retire and SAS could shed a bunch of costs.
SAS is NOT a great place to work
Like others here, I spent a substantial part of my career at SAS and now have a lot of regret I didn't make a change earlier. It's important to me that other good people don't get su-ked into the vortex and get sp-t out years later wondering what... — read more
Mistakes were made. So what can be done?
OK, so mistakes were made. That was recognized at the highest level. If you think the company is not on the correct course, what (reasonable and feasible) corrections would you recommend to management?
Why do you naysayers want to ruin it for the rest of us ?
If you’re no longer working for the company, why are you here? Why badmouth the company you worked for when you’re long gone? It’s not helping you. It’s only hurting others.
Is Viya the Achilles Heel of SAS?
Hardly anyone uses Viya. Even the existing customers to whom it was given to gratis to evaluate. Eight years later after inception, there still no clear migration path from V9 to Viya. Call me pessimistic, but that doesn't sound like a wonderful... — read more
Doom And Gloom
So much for all you end of the month doom and gloomers. Time for the November chicken littles to get the ball rolling again.
Part time positions?
Does SAS still allow for part time work in technical roles like dev, test, tech support, etc? I used to know a few people who worked a few days a week but they are all gone now. I was thinking that as I get older this would be a nice transition to... — read more
Nearing the end of the month now
where are the layoffs that were expected in oct? Announced tomorrow morning maybe? makes sense to do it before open enrollment begins October 30. anyone have any details?
The Fed and SAS
https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/scfindex.htm Scroll down to: _Survey Data And Replicate Weight Files_ subheading Whose else thinks SAS is going to be around for a while?
SAS Product Development
This video says it all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krSu2yeadaY
SAS Customer Counts
How many total customers did SAS have at the beginning of 2023 versus now? How many Viya customers did SAS have at the beginning of 2023 versus now? How many V9 customers did SAS have at the beginning of 2023 versus now? How many V9... — read more
What's your current comp at?
And what do you do? Senior Dev in r&d, 140ish
Revenue per employee
Revenue per employee is one of the key metrics that the market looks at when evaluating the relative efficiency of software companies. The numbers don't look too flash for SAS... Microsoft $958k VMWare $604k Adobe $600k Workday $497k ServiceNow... — read more
There will be one more batch of layoffs at the end of the month
It's me again, I was the one who 'broke the news' of October layoffs on here. There are plans for one more batch at the end of the month, 2 weeks from now, and then there should be relatively nothing until February where management will more than... — read more
Beware the hatchet
Can confirm that October is the month of doom. Was told today I have 30 days to apply for open jobs here, if I do not get one, time for me to hit the road, my job has been eliminated. SAS has too many employees at higher levels of too many job roles... — read more
SAS Championship
Is the SAS championship attempting to celebrate what the company once was? Has the annual event become little more than a photo-op and a waste of money without meaningful ROI?
Why don't you leave?
If you hate it at SAS so much, why do you stay? This is an honest question. There are plenty of available jobs. I'm sure many of you are capable enough to be able to land something at least as good as what you have now. So why stay somewhere you are... — read more
What would it take to fix Viya?
This post points out that a LinkedIn search for Viya yields only three job postings in the United States: https://www.thelayoff.com/post/@3jfx+1oW1I0bm What would it take to make Viya succeed? Better architecture? Better products on top of it?... — read more
The fall of a once-great company
https://qz.com/1776080/how-the-mcdonnell-douglas-boeing-merger-led-to-the-737-max-crisis
cronyism and blatant adultery
cronyism and blatant adultery within the Fraud and Security Intelligence division would make a great read. walter isaacson take note!
More layoffs planned for October
Good luck.
What could SAS implement from Elon Musks playbook?
Based on content in Walter Isaacson‘s new biography on Elon, there is a lot SAS executives could learn and act upon. Here are a few that might change things. Respect only the laws of physics., not personal opinions, experiences, etc. In... — read more
SAS IPO vs. I-540 Completion
There's a story today on WRAL about another stretch of I540 nearing completion. According to the story, the entire I540 project will be complete by 2028. Which comes first - the SAS IPO, or I540 completion?
More Layoffs Today
Heard more layoffs took place today, this time in PSD. Heard of an entire team let go.
SAS needs more layoffs
So many people who haven't been performing at a reasonable for years/decades are dragging this company down. They haven't kept their skills fresh, and even when given the opportunity to train, turned it down. And everyone acts all surprised when we... — read more
Will early retirement offered this year? Is so, when and what criteria?
I’m ready to be bought out, but pretty sure I don’t meet the criteria. A little shy of 60 and almost 15 years in. What were past criteria? Does one wait for the tap on the shoulder or volunteer?
SAS IPO has now been pushed to 2025
https://www.techzine.eu/blogs/analytics/111256/jim-goodnight-considers-later-sas-ipo-it-will-be-in-2025/
SAS Selects TD SYNNEX as Primary Global Distribution Partner
https://www.sas.com/en_us/news/press-releases/2023/september/ai-and-analytics-leader-sas-selects-td-synnex-as-primary-global-.html?utm_source=linkedin_company&utm_medium=social-sprinklr&utm_content=11312169816&utm_term=11312169816 I wonder whether... — read more
IPO pushed to 2025
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article279298524.html
New Products. Old Problems
SAS announced their new "App Factory" during SAS Explore... They are trying to make a big deal out of the fact that users don't have to use SAS to do what you would ostensibly do with SAS--build AI models. And the tool they've built to enable this... — read more
New TBJ Article -
https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2023/09/01/sas-public-offering-ipo-jim-goodnight-cary-legacy.html Seems to be trying to put pressure on the company in my opinion. At the very least asking the question we're all wondering. I also find it... — read more
First update without mention of the IPO
I'm wondering if they finally figured they weren't fooling anyone
Did automation pave the way to getting rid of testers?
Just curious. When SAS started pushing for automation tests to facilitate CI/CD did it also bring about the demise of many of the senior testers? If so who will make changes when UIs are modified? Did the layoffs affect many developers? Will they be... — read more
Woke@SAS contributing to company decline
Who agrees and why?
SAS buildings officially for rent
This is behind a paywall at the TBJ but someone sent me the bulk of the content: For the first time, SAS Institute is subleasing buildings on its large headquarters campus in Cary. A SAS spokeswoman confirmed the move, saying it comes as a direct... — read more
Wonder who in HR follows this SAS posting site?
There is no way SAS doesn’t know about this site. I’m just wondering what they’ll do with the info they are gathering? Even though this is anonymous, I could imagine SAS knows it’s definitely NOT the new hires or people under 5 years here... — read more
Veteran SAS Alum Collaborating on a Book?
Should they get together and write SAS history from the perspective of those who lived it and helped build the company from the early days till say 2020? Would this be an interesting business and general tech history interest read?
MSGA 2024-- Make SAS Great Again
OK Folks -- what will it take!
IPO stock options
Anyone hear as to the stock options or rsu that SAS will offer?
All ”fluff” has got to go!
Fact: SAS succeeded when it was an R&D driven company. This has been slowly diminishing for 20+ years while Product Management and Marketing has grown considerably. SAS could eliminate 60% of the marketing-related positions and it wouldn’t... — read more