For quite a while SAS was almost a mythical place that you were proud to say that you worked there. Probably the best in NC. Things have really gone downhill in the last 3 years. I wonder how folks will remember SAS in 5-10 years from now if it even... — read more
Next up, tech support...?
As SAS takes the next steps toward its future, so will SAS Technical Support. Effective January 1, 2024, the Technical Support organization will adopt a global structure based on function, rather than geography, which reflects SAS’ move away from a... — read more
Viya Bar and Grill
With all the postings The Layoff receives regarding SAS, I see a business opportunity! One of the SAS Old Timers should open the "Viya Bar and Grill" in the Bass Pro Shops Plaza across the street from SAS. There, former SAS employees could pull up a... — read more
"For me, it always comes back to SAS dropping the ball with universities..."
"This frequent comment puzzles me. How did SAS drop the ball with universities? I thought they gave the software away free to universities..."
Did they lie to us about results?
I think we've been lied to for years in regards to our true revenue, so what now appears as a slow decay is actually quite worse. There is a reason why the Broadcom deal failed, because the potential buyer smelled the BS when they started looking at... — read more
What next?
SAS revenues have declined on average >2% per year, over the past 10 years (from SAS-published figures, adjusted for inflation.) If this trend continues, SAS could maintain its profit margin by cutting costs >2% per year. Or, the trend could get... — read more
Underpaid and now layoffs
So I was reading up on the latest SAS layoffs and ended up at comprehensive.io where average salary ranges are displayed by job title. I had always heard that SAS underpays but I thought the perks made up for it, sort of. At least there wasn’t any... — read more
Worse than Agile is when managers pretend to do Agile
In my opinion, what's much worse than Agile is when managers pretend to do Agile for the sake of appearances while telling their teams to ignore the process entirely. Those managers are letting the company down by lying, and they're making... — read more
Age Discrimination
The fact that most of the people let go in the recent batch of SAS layoffs are in their 50's may pose a problem for the company. It has been illegal for more than 50 years for an employer to use age as a criteria in hiring or firing. It’s worth a... — read more
Can the damage even be undone?
Are we too far gone by now for anything to be able to put us back on the right course?
Is SAS still relevant in analytics and machine learning?
SAS used to the market leader in statistics and the analytic products. The people who found and built the analytic products have retired in the last few years and the new crop of analytic R&D leaders do not have the technical expertise or the... — read more
I'm not even thinking about productivity
It's disappointing that there is so little transparency here. They literally keep us guessing and we spend our time working in fear. Do they really think that fear and uncertainty will make us more productive, because I'm pretty sure that no one... — read more
Start looking for a way out right now
People who are wondering if this is over need to face facts. This is not going to be over. We’ll be seeing more layoffs at SAS over time until the company implodes. The management will keep cutting until all that is left is a skeleton that will be... — read more
Is “Agile Transformation” making a positive difference at SAS? — Particularly R&D?
From about 2010 until 2018 “Agile/SCRUM” slowly took hold within R&D and many of the vertical product groups as well. By 2020 it became the standard way to manage virtually all aspects of product development. Thoughts on whether or not this is made... — read more
SAS disputes layoff ‘numbers and speculations,’ says are ‘not accurate’
https://wraltechwire.com/2023/07/17/sas-disputes-layoff-numbers-and-speculations-says-are-not-accurate/ Seems simple to me. If the numbers are inaccurate just post the real numbers. Easy to put that one to rest. My guess is they total (for the year)... — read more
Their lack of human decency is really showing this round
Like someone here said - this company has betrayed the employees that help build it. They may hide behind the statements like "oh, we are just cutting one percent of the workforce", but the fact is a lot of people being laid off (or being kept but... — read more
retirement buyouts incoming within 30 days
rumors circulating that buyouts will be sent out in the next 30 days, min employee age 55 with at least 30 years of service is the magic number. sad I'm not eligible. too old to be valued anynore but not old enough to escape yet. the magic number... — read more
Triangle Business Journal, 7/15
TL;DR: They say our numbers are wrong. Wish they'd announce the right ones. SAS confirms 1 percent cut to workforce in 2023 By Lauren Ohnesorge – Senior Staff Writer, Triangle Business Journal Jul 15, 2023 Cary analytics firm SAS Institute... — read more
Some nice LI spin
https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7035338918203965441?updateEntityUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afs_feedUpdate%3A%28V2%2Curn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7035338918203965441%29
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article277322113.html
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article277322113.html SAS Institute cuts jobs, employee reports, as Cary software firm again shrinks staff Archived: https://archive.is/uNikz
25 Testers in R&D let go today
Sadly 25 we’re just let go this morning. Uuugh
Still cuts coming ... post if you know of any
An employee with 37 years of service was let go yesterday with no warning. No poor evaluations etc. The manager was forced to do it. Nobody knows why. We don't know if there was a package involved but assume there was.
Layoff / IPO Statement (May 1, WRAL TechWire)
"SAS will be closing several international offices affecting some 250 employees... “We are still focused on becoming IPO-ready,” [Heath] explained. “This means we would be financially and operationally ready to enter the public markets. Once we... — read more
A company that lets talents go to waste
I am leaving soon and I am very much looking forward to my last day here. I only regret that I stuck around this long. There are still many talented people here who are letting this company waste their talents. They could achieve much more... — read more
The Slow Death of SAS - a Pre-sales Perspective
Let me start by saying it’s been fascinating to read some of the posts here, especially from the R&D folks. Thanks for your perspective. I thought I’d add mine from the perspective of a customer facing technical pre-sales consultant at SAS for 15... — read more
They learn nothing from mistakes
It is all too obvious that management learns nothing from mistakes. Isn't it about time they started doing so? The problems just keep piling up.
It's just a sad situation
that people think limited R&D investment in favor of sales focus were the problems just shows how bad (non-existent) the management was. there was a failure in all aspects. in order to have long-term investment, you of course have to have revenue (or... — read more
Glassdoor 5 star reviews?
There are tons of 5 star reviews on Glassdoor. The skew towards 5 appears suspect. Some reviews are blatant HR advertisements. Is management pressuring employees to leave glowing reviews?
What is the end game for SAS?
What is the end game for SAS and JHG? Many of you think there will not be an IPO. I believe that as well. I suspect that JHG values the company way more than potential buyers (I can’t say that I blame him—it’s his life’s work) or SAS would have been... — read more
More layoffs next week
There was a rumor about more layoffs next week, do we know if that's true?
Forget logic when it comes to layoffs
There is very little reasoning to who was laid off. Many who haven’t performed are still there. The roles affected are senior mid and entry. It seems like a rush to meet profitability for a quick acquisition. Can they IPO? Current customers aren’t... — read more
quiet layoffs
200+ people laid off in February.
Changes you would like SAS to make?
A lot of things here could be better.
The golden era of SAS has long past
An elite few built world-class skills because they carefully curated their careers over a long period of time while continuing to up-skill on their own time+dime. Many had to put up with less than ideal, to downright awful managers for certain... — read more
Any news about cuts?
I almost wish we would have cuts because, like this, I'm worried 24/7. I always feel like we're in the calm before the storm and something bad is about to happen. If anybody knows if any cuts are coming or, even better, can confirm that we won't be... — read more
Good company to work for?
I am weighing an offer in marketing. Should I say yes? Im curious more about workload and culture than comp here.