I only see failures in adapting to new circumstances, even sometimes in recognizing there are new circumstances.

Intuit recently laid a bunch of people off, referring to them as "under performers". Linked-In has several posts lambasting Intuit for negatively labeling employees while trying to maintain the "we are an infallible organization" facade. I wonder... — read more 

The big guy always saw through the hype and still does but his baby must be kicked from the nest and fly on its own. It’s unfortunate that the rest of the world is bonkers though. More layoffs will come, without doubt, once the nest is empty. It’s... — read more 

Fear, uncertainty, and doubt about the future of the company is having visible and palpable effects on morale. It might not be obvious to upper management but the lack of information regarding the IPO/sale is a huge drain on energy and motivation. ... — read more 

Former SAS employee Thomas Dinsmore is always entertaining. His first post on his new Substack is "What's Next for SAS". https://thomaswdinsmore.substack.com/p/whats-next-for-sas

Since a core IPO valuation element for SAS presumably includes how effectively SAS can migrate on-premise customers to cloud subscriptions, it will be interesting to see how much progress is made in the coming months with the Viya strategy. ... — read more 

despite the deletion of discussion threads and comments.

1976-1986, 1986-1996, 1996-2006, 2006-2016 or 2016-2026? Me favorite is 1986-1996. Not around for all of it but just incredible being there when building R opened

"Whether SAS Institute offers another Voluntary Retirement Benefit Package (VRBP) depends on various factors such as their internal financial situation, strategic goals, and workforce planning. Companies may offer VRBP for different reasons including... — read more 

Perhaps SAS's downfall is a blessing in disguise. At least nobody at SAS (unless they are completely deluded or living under a rock) will be terribly surprised when they get made redundant. What about the other hundreds of millions of people... — read more 

@1wza+1sXiXn29 nailed it! late to the AI LLM and cloud party: "Nobody wants SAS's products anymore. So even if SAS does a great job at "infusing" AI into it's products, they will still be cr-ppy products, built on a flawed architecture and an... — read more 

Serious question. SAS has long touted itself as being a leader in AI. Should SAS have been the ones to bring ChatGPT capabilities to the market, or are we just not built that way or have the innovative capabilities to think bigger than we are.

Wrapped up my final interview for another internal position this week, looking pretty promising. Will my current manager have any say on when I start at the next position? Can they offer me any incentive to stay? Could they veto it?

With the update, my confidence is renewed that the company is on the right path.

SAS can keep doing small layoffs, 1-2% of employees each year, to ensure profitability. A $3B annual revenue stream — even though declining — can support this policy for many years. This is the most generous policy for current employees. Other... — read more 

I’m waiting for EOL, which should be worth much more, before EOJ.

People who have worked hard and who have loyally stayed here even as the company began its slow sad decline years ago just keep getting kicked while we're down. What's the reward for staying here and working for people who are incompetent or... — read more 

I forgot what thread this surfaced in, so I started a new one. I spoke with a current employee last night and learned that the office shuffle email includes: —T and U will be emptied —the cafe in T will be supplanted by (resurface as?) the cafe in... — read more 

Someone made the comment that average boomer retirement savings is 200k. Probably true but not representative of this crowd. Since it is anonymous here is a raw poll. ~Years spent at SAS Net worth. Include house(s) Did double income... — read more 

I heard that there were more layoffs last week. I know of one person affected but not sure if the extent of this round. Does anyone have more info?

https://youtu.be/UFrseCr8uPI?si=B0DUiTFeBWII3TTQ

What would you only ask anonymously? Serious replies only. I’ll start: On what golf course did you acquire that luxurious tan?

I left SAS several years ago for gr$$ner pastures. Not here to talk about that though. Every week I'm getting LinkedIn invites and messages from college juniors and seniors all looking for advice about how to break in to the current job market. All... — read more 

I know the debate about whether SAS will IPO or not is an active one and I agree with a lot of what realists have posted here. I understand until something happens, it’s all speculation. But because I genuinely know and understand very little about... — read more 

Someone mentioned in another thread… any details?

archive link to article here.. https://archive.is/gc6aq

I am curious what SAS employees’ expectations are after a SAS IPO or sale. As for a IPO (which I can’t honestly see unless it’s for a minor stake of shares), as nothing has been communicated to us I assume we will not get stock options or anything... — read more 

Feedbk from financial or operational end users re: rollout of financial sys globally .

That's the sound of other tech companies and media outlets reacting to all the innovative juicy goodness shared during innovate in las vegas. ooooooh head-on ate scary hot wings and fascinated the plebes! Now on to the next city (Singapore?) where... — read more 

Thoughts? Was highlighted more deeply at Innovate today. Combines SAS9 and Viya procs into a single, non-CAS runtime. Basically what we’ve all been asking for after all these years.

https://cutlefish.substack.com/p/tbm-271-the-biggest-untapped-opportunity Pragmatists, one and all.

McKinsey, the management consultants that brought us Enron, have been quietly involved at SAS the past few years. They worked the BS Broadcom ‘deal’ to try and set a low-end price. Are they now the ones responsible for de-SASing SAS?

To drop, y’know, not to wear. Maybe May.

Or is it happening already?

Reposted because it hits the mark. "Rumor and gossip is what SAS runs on. These same sorts of discussions probably happened each day at the lunch tables in R." Yah, that's a problem at SAS. We receive a company-wide notification when a parking lot... — read more 

Plenty of opinions posted about management. Any managers want to tell their side of the tale?

Hey all, I'm a regular poster at this site, and at times I can be very critical of SAS, however I always keep in mind not to overstep the mark. While we post anonymously, thelayoff.com does retain the IP addresses of posters. This opens up the... — read more 

I heard that T and U are closing and those folks are moving into A, and thus, the A cafeteria is reopening.

Do any current employees in Cary know what the salary range for a sr dev is in R&D? Getting shafted in my current position (go figure) and looking to move to another team for a higher position as unfortunately leaving the company is not currently an... — read more 

https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ro69LPg repost from oct, i thought it's good to have it bumped up here: Microsoft's pay guidelines for job offers: Level 70: Base pay: $231,700 to $361,500 On-hire stock awards: $310,000 default to $1.2 million with... — read more