(Sorry don’t have access to a non-pay wall version) https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2024/02/23/sas-sued-401k-retirement-plan-fund-losses-jpmorgan.html

I have noticed the return of (early career) internal job postings. I thought these had gone away but they are back. This seems to me to be a way to discourage older workers from applying. Having the level as "associate" isn't enough, they throw... — read more 

This: ‘I have never seen an org so topheavy with "decision makers" and strategists and advisors and so precious few people to do the actual work.’ [https://www.thelayoff.com/post/@oeq+1r9TiFER]

I share many of the same laments and nostalgia and sadness in the comments here. Seems like we've covered everything. But just wondering what is going relatively well lately. Working at a customer site now, and will be investing in an upgrade. Hoping... — read more 

The age thing is a separate issue. Because turnover was so low for so long the average age of the company's employees is very high. Compared to the average age of employees at competitor orgs, it's extremely high. That does not look good for IPO. A... — read more 

What’s everyone’s opinion on the big names in the data, AI, ML space? (Msft, AWS, and Google included. Since they all have similar platforms within each cloud option) Who’s doing it right? What’s lacking? How do they stack up. Generally curious. — read more 

I recall many buildings feeling empty before Covid - partly because they overbuilt and the "office for everyone" made it feel closed off. SAS best perk for me was the campus so just curious if more staff are commuting again.

Assume separation comes with one - care to enlighten?

I wonder if the tall guy realizes that his success was based on SAS being the only game in town for so many years. Was his decision making less than stellar from the beginning? It would have been next to impossible to fail in those early years. So... — read more 

Is more managers apparently

We should all be thankful that his focus is not only on maximizing return or the survival of the company but on the employees that are his stated assets. Sure, layoffs are indicated in the preparation for sale or IPO but the fact that they haven’t... — read more 

With hindsight, the Broadcom deal could have been about the best possible outcome for SAS. It's a shame JG's ego apparently got in the way of what would have made good business sense. If you're interested, check out the WMWare page on this site... — read more 

Things you don't hear about from the company, from the 1/16 TBJ: For 20 years, the corporate hangar belonging to SAS Institute has housed company jets near the general aviation terminal at Raleigh-Durham International Airport. But amid a lease... — read more 

Is this really true? What specific business units had layoffs? Nobody I know seems to know. But something went down for certain.

I’d bet a red swingline stapler and an expired sas/access license the next round will be the week of 1/28. What is your guess or inside scoop? Who is next on the chopping block?

Revenue has been constipated around $3B for close to 10 years. Few companies see enough value in Viya to adopt it. SAS is actively discouraging new V9 sales. JMP sales likely do not cover JMP salaries and benefits. Commercial real estate occupancy... — read more 

Provide me with financial details on how the IPO will benefit me, or publish an early retirement plan or employee retention program that is highly motivating.

What are the 3 most important things for executives to address? #1 Acknowledge current performance, and a plan to fix it ASAP #2 Innovation strategy ( how to retain and reward the hardcore innovators) #3 Course correction of the SAS ship: Investment... — read more 

What are your resolutions? Here are mine. Get a golf tan as deep and luxurious as BH at an R&D all hands. Start my own book club to rival JPs. First book: Doing more with less. Second book: 101 (stolen) peanut butter recipes. ... — read more 

Not everyone can be a 10x developer, a tech lead, or an architect. A hierarchical organization has more leaves than branches. There have to be more followers than leaders. Some have to have the vision while others do the work. A majority do what... — read more 

What is your guesstimate for SAS 2023 revenue and why?

Do a search on Reddit for SAS under r/datascience and here are the threads... Does anyone use SAS? Does anyone use SAS anymore? Why is it still around? WTF do people use SAS for? Should I learn this? Is SAS an outdated tool? Career su----e? And how... — read more 

Whether anyone will care is another matter.

I'm beyond frustrated with this company. I'm working, on average, 50 hours a week just to keep my group above water. And for what? Cr-p pay? To have the scope of my job keep increasing while other group in SAS tell me they can't do their job... — read more 

Anyone else notice?

Here's what the judges said... "Based on the provided benchmark data, SAS Viya used 87% less computing when running “like” models against linear, logistic, random forest, and gradient boosting algorithms. When training models, SAS Viya appears ahead... — read more 

Have heard that during 2023 that no 9.4 sales were allowed, except under rare extenuating circumstances. Does this restriction also apply to renewals? And if so, and if the renewing customer does not want Viya, what is the messaging at that... — read more 

A few dozen consultants from PSD are being moved to R&D to turn service solutions into standalone products. Anyone have information on what this means for the consultants who were moved and for the ones staying in PSD? Is this an ease-in to layoffs... — read more 

Many on this site, myself included, feel that we were badly managed at SAS Institute. However, a Web search will show that such complaints are common throughout the software industry. Management of software, and technology in general, requires both... — read more 

Hearing massive EMEA layoffs to happen before year’s end. Anyone else hearing this?

Just curious, as I haven’t been to SAS campus in quite a while. Did SAS end up being able to rent out any space in buildings E or H?

There’s an abundance of others on here but let’s hear from those that worked in the other areas!

With JG's 81st approaching next month, anyone care to speculate on SAS' current succession plan? One would think they’d look for a dynamic cloud leader on the outside, but I bet they promote from within. The question is, who is the most likely... — read more 

This is certainly not the first post that has introduced the topic of employee equity. There is a lot of talk about an IPO or even another company buying SAS. I am not a Finance expert, but isn't there a scenario where employees can own shares... — read more 

With all the talk about Viya... There's no question that the Viya platform brings capabilities to the analytics world that could really differentiatie SAS solutions from other competing offerings. Do we know of any plans to push it more as... — read more 

This is the time of year when leaders and managers quietly fall off the org chart, only to have their separation announced in January. We also have possible layoffs looming. So, tis' the season. What are you hearing/seeing? Don't waste time with... — read more 

What has become of CAS, the scalable compute engine slated as the cornerstone for the future of SAS computing in Viya? Where are its original team members now? Are there parallels with the Gopher team? Hopefully answers here will be a bit more... — read more 

It started with their manager, a long-time SAS exec with excellent technical skills, who retired suddenly. Why? Was he at odds with the Big German's successor BH? Did the rest of the team's exodus stem from the same reason, or because he left, or... — read more 

PL/1 -> C, MVA, TK, In-DB, HPA, LASR, CAS/Viya. They weren’t done. in a vacuum but had approval. What. would you have done differently? Where would you have diverged? Not in some abstract, retrospective fashion, but if you were there at the time... — read more 

Based on goal setting and accomplishments, ten percent will be culled in the new year but with reduced severance (watch for new policy).