At this point we all know several people who've been laid off. Some will tell you where they went and why, however others won't say who hired them. Its not like they're at risk of me stealing their newly acquired job, the only reason I can think of is they don't want a bunch of WF people to get wind of and go to their new company. Just seems crazy in this market to close the door behind you when you were in the same boat as others not too long ago.
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oh, I re-read your self -serving missive..... and F' You and enjoy poverty.
Bunny-boiler alert!
@bz if the person really thought you were a high value asset to the company, they would let you list them as a reference on an application. What they won’t do, because again it’s meaningless, is give a LinkedIn endorsement. I don’t know how to be much clearer—expecting someone to put their job at risk for something as insignificant as LI (I’ve been endorsed by people I never worked with!) might be why they’re skeptical of staking their reputation on you. Discernment. Get some. LI is a facade. Getting hurt b/c someone you thought was in your corner won’t heap praises upon you on social media is…adolescent.
Well, it does keep the flies out. And you do NOT want a corkscrew worm to burrow into your hide. Yeah, we eradicated those long ago. Wonder why the resurgence ?
@dx too nosy.
Smart to severe. Because of the crab pot mentality (culture) this place has, we are not friends. Co conspirators at best.
Someone blocked me on social media once out of the blue.
I guess they got tired of me looking at their pictures, must think I look at them for personal use, which I do actually. I have some pretty convincing media.
Good thing I had saved them as I went over a period of time. So it really doesn't matter I guess if we're not friends anymore.
Gotta stop looking at them though I'm gonna end up going blind or have to hairy of palms. Starting to develop circles under my eyes too.
@dh this. The vast majority of people I work with at WF are not people I would choose to continue working with outside WF.
Mainly because not everyone lives their life through posting videos of themselves talking to an inanimate device to post to TikTok/IG/FB/Linkedin like a mental case. Normal people simply go about their business because they are not stricken with acute narcissism.
I got laid off last year and after I found a new position helped three former colleagues also just join me. All while dodging overtures, some of them very pushy, from others I just don’t want to work with.
The root issue here is a society where everything is supposed to be served up for public consumption and commentary. Believe it or not, there are many of us who want to live private lives and aren't interested in broadcasting our every move and thought.
Just relax and focus on your own life.
@bg then given that, a person who truly cared for you as much as they said they did and even acted like it should recommend them anyway.
You only live once. Gotta stop giving a rats a-s of what people think. World still turns and there is always tomorrow. People should be doing the right thing and quit putting on an act. Acting only works on an audience.
@br it's unnerving that someone you've known for a decade suddenly forgets who you are.
I get it from a business sense, but at the end of the day, still a person.
I don't see how some people sleep at night knowing they've taken someone's perhaps a families livihoods away. It isnt just laying off John Smith a local paper pusher to save just a little money.
But whoever cooked up location strategy (because someone of thought of that idea, that idea came from one person and a group decided on it, that be best).
But birth of a new baby, school age children, all I'm different stages of life. They need to have something sound and a sense of stability.
What it boils down to, every other avenue should be fully explored before layoffs should even be talked about. That should be the last resort.
Come on, we have got to do better.
@bg someway to vouch for someone. They say don't burn bridges but this is why they do....
The real reason: They do not want you reaching out to someone you know at this company and telling them that they just hired a dum--ss/liar/whatever which would pollute the waters and taint their reputation.
@ap companies will tell managers they aren’t permitted to provide recommendations b/c it would be counter to the practice that also keeps companies from doing more than verifying your dates of employment when your potential new employer calls for a reference. You can’t have it both ways—managers can give good references, but can’t give negative feedback if asked. LI is public, it’s easy for an employer to see that their employee has violated the no recommendation rule; and who’s risking employment over some irrelevant section on LI that holds no value? Plus, any employer giving credence to those LI endorsements is a red flag.
I just got a job offer and I told others I’m leaving and if you are who I think you are, then you are the reason why I can’t tell everyone.
@b0 it's just LinkedIn and it would be helpful if a manager could back you up. Nobody cares what anyone will say. Everyone understands and has their own problems to worry with.
Why even have this option on here.
Wouldn't even write a character reference. Well I'm still including them on my reference lists anyway.
@ap "We were always told by our manager, if you ever needed anything just ask them and that's what they were there for." They are just saying that to be polite because it would be super awkward to respond to your layoff news with, "sorry, we can't give you a reference."
We were always told by our manager, if you ever needed anything just ask them and that's what they were there for.
Okay I don't know of any other way a manager could help someone besides write a reference letter or some kind of recommendation note (paper, email, LinkedIn etc.) For someone they know.
When you decide to reach out after being laid off a few month later, you get a plain Jane hello it's good to hear from you, unfortunately I'm not allowed to give a reference but I do wish you luck on your future endeavors etc.
What a load of crock though because I know first hand some people did receive recommendations and I know this because a few people told me they did and when I explained that when I tried asking I got met with this response, they looked at me like I had horns coming out of my head.
They then started asking me why not? What did you do? I responded im not sure I tried multiple occasions to contact them, but all my attempts were ignored. They were like oh well.. well they wrote me one that's strange.
So now there's this stale mate where this person and I are doing this no contact game. Round and round it goes. I'm wait them out. Surely they'll respond.
People update their LinkedIn when they are ready for others to know. Some people do it their first day at their new employer, some wait/have other priorities
Satisfying your personal curiosity doesn’t outweigh someone’s personal preferences about what they share, when and with who.
Your post sounds very entitled.
Because you are not their friend. Why should anyone feel obligated to tell you anything? Mind your business.
Some are cautious because they follow the 90 day rule. They want to ensure they do well in their first 90 days before saying anything.
Your weirdness and sense of entitlement is why they dont want to tell YOU where they next place of employment is. Im sure YOU wasn't that close to the person to begin with.
The world is full of evil ppl who will hate you until the end of your life. They will call your new employer and start laying down dirt about you to get you fired. One thing Ive learned in the workplace and life in general. Someone smiles at you yet could be plotting your doom. Someone gives you a dirty look but wishes you no harm. My point? You never know who has a burning dislike of you so best to play it safe and let the past be the past.
Because not everything needs to be socialized to the world.
Guess solidarity is only in other countries
Based on this post, I can see exactly why someone wouldn't want you to follow them to their next place of employment.
Why do you think someone else's employment is any of your business? What a bizarre post.