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Engineering Comp Plans

For any engineers on the board, I have a couple of questions. Don't take offense, they are legitimate questions:

  1. Why can't engineering ever release any projects on time?

  2. Why is anything you do release full of bugs and half complete?

  3. Why are we as a company years and years behind the competition when it comes to full-stack enterprise IT solutions?

  4. Why can we never see a roadmap with anything on it when requested?

  5. Why is there seemingly never any accountability to address failed projects or missed deadlines?

This is by far the worst engineering environment I've ever seen at any company I've ever worked at. Seems to me it's engineering comp plans that need to change, not SCPs.


After making the announcement today that 787 Engineering is moving to Charleston SC. Boeing next bold announcement directly to SPPEA Engineers

which will be truly a classy move on Boeing's part, will be to inform all SPEEA representative 787 Engineers currently working in Everett is that they all will have to reapply to their current job that will end up with a new location having a Charleston SC zip code soon, and if they are a lucky sap to be offered their old it won't include relocation expenses but will come with a reduction in salary.
Yep, nothing new here, Boeing's done this before to quite a number of people.

Stay Classy Boeing!


Sales vs Engineering

There's a lot of bi--hing and moaning about Sales comments on this board.

Perspective:

Without Sales, none of you would have a job. Without Engineering, people would still have a job because Engineering doesn't deliver or do anything. Dell's model is to acquire companies with good but declining products and sell them to its install base - with no plan or skill set to continue innovating or developing these products out further - and keep selling them until there's nothing left. Case in point, EMC products we sell today are the same as they were 10 years ago.

Question? What successful products has Dell engineering developed organically that didn't originate from an acquisition? Name one.


Only manufacturing

If you are salary or overhead, you are at a great risk in 2026 for a layoff. If you do not actually make product you need to be looking for something else.

Our engineers have limited career spans. We do not design anything of interest or significance. Not like we work for Boeing, NASA, Lockheed, and a company where engineers do really interesting and high-tech work. We design electric drills. Boring...

Take my advice and have your resume ready. Get to know people that work at real companies. Be prepared do deal with a layoff.


My guesses for layoffs this quarter...

I think the typical departments will get hit hard again - ISG, CSG, Sales, Engineering, and IT... but I also think Dell is going to start going after full remote employees.

Dell no longer allows remote positions (future positions that is) and all new roles/REQs MUST go to the office, meaning they want all employees to be local to an office, right? Well that won't/can't happen until all remote employees are either laid off or quit.. OR relocate on their own dime. They are going to have to start going after remotes sooner or later and I feel like it's gonna be sooner than later; after the RTO mandate. OR, they will tell remotes that they can either relocate and keep their job, or have bonus's/raises minimized + the already not eligble for promotions/internal movement.

I think a LOT of the engineers, PMs, Managers/directors who were very heavily involved in mav will be let go as well, considering the OG deadline was pushed back a quarter...

Just my guess.


Silent layoffs in Engineering

While support teams is getting axed, engineering is facing even more unethical layoff where all old timers are being humiliated and left with no choice but to resign. RSUs were already gone and now bonus will be majorly given to new people who are lured with big promises. Even time offs are being reduced every year and old timers are made to work like dne** with no accountability to the new people. People who some how trying to see through this are put into impossible situations. Brace for more mad stuff friends if you are still there !!


H1B brings in strong talent, believe it or not

Honestly, Cisco runs on H-1B talent in a very real way—just like a lot of big tech—because it brings in people with deep, specific skills that are hard to find at the exact scale and speed the work demands. These aren’t random hires; a lot of them have strong engineering backgrounds and advanced degrees in areas like software, networking, security, and data. And yeah, it can make things feel more competitive for Americans, but that’s kind of the point: the world isn’t slowing down, and neither is the industry. If you don’t get the role you wanted, you can either sit around and blame the system, or you can level up and come back stronger. That’s the difference between a grown-up mindset and a baby mindset—Cisco (and the people who thrive there) reward the folks who adapt, learn, and keep pushing.


Bait-and-Switch

I was hired as a software engineer…….

But now I’m being asked to do work that has nothing to do with the JD…….

I genuinely don’t know what to do. It barely feels real like who hires you for a full stack python software developer and then suddenly tells you to do data engineering work instead

Do I start looking for another job, or do I just su-k it up and move to another department ? Or is this just a company-wide bait-and-switch hiring practice?


Downstream Layoffs resuming

From an HR contact - make no bjg purchases in the New Year. Many more positions to be eliminated starting end of January, continuing into February. You may get bonus as a part of your send off package. Engineering, maintenance, IT, LEGAL, HSE, ERR, Purchasing, and other administrative roles are in scope!


I've never seen a company with so many layers of useless tooling.

Each engineering department or BU has eighteen different layers of tooling, and within the BU there's another layer of tooling. There's 25 layers of instructions that only someone from their respective department would know God forbid you need to collaborate. Nothing is cohesive, I need fifteen MFA apps to traverse layer after layer to do 1% of my work. No wonder it takes forever for Cisco to fix things.


Why this place is full of 0.0001x engineers and useless things?

I work in new team, we deliver "nothing" because PO talk like he is on dr-gs changing his mind every second week. Moreover he is micromanaging us not to do stuff, it feels like he don`t want us to deliver this and prove idea was ....

I was bored last sprint so I did more than a task which would my high school kid do to experiment. As a result I got to listen to a "talk" for "doing wrong stuff". At same time we have a guy in team which delivers ZERO and its fine.

I am starting to hate software dev as I am not even allowed to do anything any more. Like I wanted to be engineer to build things, have solutions to help some with something, not to sit 50% of my day on meetings and deal with architects which cant even write hello world and their git is totally EMPTY, but they can say AI AI AI... and agentic AI.

I did not receive a single valuable training in the "research" field we are doing, but my training backlog is full of useless trainings about nothing like that AI joke we got inspire shout out recently :D.

I am starting to think to quit without other job, because most I hate in my career is when I can't do work because it make others look bad.


Amazon Engineers Face Layoffs In Key States as the Restructure Continues

Amazon’s record layoff plans this year have already drawn considerable attention, and the latest data shows that engineers at the organization faced a significant portion of the heat.

https://www.thehrdigest.com/amazon-engineers-layoffs-in-key-states-as-the-restructure-continues/


Companies Likely Hiring Verizon-Aligned Talent

Roles span network engineering, customer service, retail operations, IT, and enterprise sales—skills highly transferable to other telecom, tech, and infrastructure firms.

The broader telecom job market in 2025 remains robust, fueled by 5G/6G expansions, fiber optic buildouts, and remote work demands, creating 3.8–4.6 million new jobs globally. U.S. telecom operators and vendors are hiring tens of thousands for network operations, field services, and support roles.

Companies Likely Hiring Verizon-Aligned Talent

Based on current 2025 job market trends, here are key companies actively recruiting for telecom-related positions. These firms value Verizon experience in areas like wireless infrastructure, customer support, and network management.

I’ve prioritized major players with open roles in engineering, sales, and operations, drawing from industry hiring data and job boards. Focus on updating your LinkedIn and resume to highlight transferable skills (e.g., 5G deployment, VoIP systems, or CRM tools) for faster applications.

AT&T

Largest U.S. telecom rival; aggressively expanding fiber and 5G networks, adding ~400,000 postpaid lines in Q3 2025. No major layoffs reported this year; hiring to offset retirements.

T-Mobile

Fast-growing carrier with 1M+ new lines in Q3 2025; focuses on affordable plans and 5G private networks. Actively recruits from competitors for enterprise and retail talent.

Comcast

Entering wireless aggressively via MVNOs; needs Verizon retail and broadband experts for store expansions and customer migration.

Charter/Spectrum

Recent $34.5B merger with Cox boosts hiring in cable-to-wireless transitions; targeting infrastructure roles amid store growth.

Crown Castle

Tower infrastructure giant; Verizon’s 5G partners often transition here for site acquisition and maintenance roles. High demand due to neutral-host 5G builds.

Ericsson

Global telecom equipment leader; hires for 5G/6G R&D and deployment. Verizon enterprise team cuts create direct pipeline.

Nokia

Similar to Ericsson; expanding U.S. private networks for ports/industry. Seeks ex-Verizon engineers for hardware/firmware roles.

Granite Telecom

Mid-sized provider of enterprise telecom solutions; partners with Verizon for resale. Hiring for growth in VoIP and cloud services.

TDS Telecom

Regional carrier focused on rural broadband; entry-to-mid-level hiring for field and sales, with strong benefits for ex-corporate roles.

Additional Tips for Landing a Role

• Timing: November–December hiring slows, but January 2026 ramps up. Apply now via LinkedIn (use “Open to Work” banner) and job sites like Indeed, ZipRecruiter, or Telecom-specific boards (e.g., FieldEngineer.com).

• Severance Leverage: Verizon’s packages include 60-day WARN notice, extended benefits, and outplacement services—use them for resume coaching and networking.

• Upskilling: Free resources like Coursera’s Google IT Support cert or CompTIA Network+ can bridge to high-demand areas like cybersecurity or AI in telecom.

• Networking: Join groups like “Telecom Professionals” on LinkedIn or Reddit’s r/telecom for insider leads. Former Verizon colleagues are already sharing opportunities in these spaces.


D&S Announcement

The gist I took away was we’re centralizing more engineering in the US, using tech centers more and only staffing manufacturing sites with under potential 30 types. I’d expect when the current batch of lower potential 26-29’s get told they’re stuck, the “redundancy” problem takes care of itself.


Need Engineers running Verizon

Vz needs employees with engineering degree running the network and operations .
Any network related job should be run by an engineer with a valid Engineering degree.
Not Liberal arts, not poliical science not vetenrian not home science and not social science history or seimnary majors ! This can be attributed to the degradation of the network over the past 8 years
Change the skillsets at every level of leadership touching the network and you will see performance and customer satisfaction improve.


The new World Headquarters is a giant FU to our product development engineering teams

I was there, nearly 10 years ago, when they announced the campus redesign. All of the buildings were outdated and in disrepair. Ford announced a major campus design for it's product development campus: new parking buildings, new buildings, and renovations for every existing building.

Work began, everyone was excited. Then unexpectedly, Billy Ford announces that he had Ford buy a Train Station (ironic). Questions began as to what was going to happen with the campus redesign. We were assured it would still continue and it did; albeit scaled down. Instead of tearing down all of PDC, only some of it would be torn down and instead of a complete campus redesign only one new building (beside car parking lot) would be built on the campus.

Everyone waited patiently for the new PDC building to be built. And that's what we were calling it, the 'new PDC'. Then only a couple of weeks before the building was set to open up. Ford leadership decided that they liked the new building too much to allow it to be just another engineering building and that it would be their new headquarters.

What was wrong with the old World Headquarters? Nothing.

Ask yourself, why didn't they announced that it was going to be the new World Headquarters years ago when the construction first broke ground? Why wait until weeks before opening to announce that it will be the new headquarters?

FU product development, that's why.

Have fun remaining in PDC where the air conditioning doesn't always work. Shout-out to the IT support teams that had to work out of that Atrium. Hopefully they'll let you move into the new building and you won't be subjected to that humid stale air all day.