#anxiety

We have families and kids that depend on us. Everyone’s all worried and it’s impossible to find a decent job in this economy.

Damn it. They have no empathy. And all the available jobs su-k and are pay cuts.

A lot of unstable employees out there.
The fear and anxiety has really affected people in such a negative way.
Keep an eye on your peers… be a friend!

Anyone from Basking Ridge location scared? I keep seeing Lake Mary and multiple other offices in this thread that may or may not be closed eventually or teams that are told to be WFH but haven’t seen much or any posts on NJ location. Any teams in NJ scared of what’s coming? Are we people in tax going to be affected?

If so, how many pills and/or co-ktails are you taking to sleep? Lol

If we get laid off?

Need to set the alarm, don't want to miss the call and pi-s my boss or HR off, they may fire me.

Anyone here heard of a RIF tomorrow or have any last minute meetings added to their calendar?? TIA

so who is being cut? is it reps, online channels, managers, assistant managers? under performing stores/reps? it’s all confusing

I try to keep up with the stocks and stuff and it seems like we did so bad this year then i saw the other day that we lost another contract in Fla and then the tax credits for our market place plans are going away. And then the medicaid cuts are gonna lose us more members. does it feel like maybe this company won't be around very long?

Hard to believe it’s this tight lipped. It’s like we’re a boat heading to sea. On the horizon we see the big storm bubbling and everyone on the boat is just paddling straight in. Get ready for the waves I guess. Hopefully we actually learn something tomorrow. I find it difficult to believe there’s not one member of leadership that knows what’s going on.

Here’s another worthless perspective from a former VZW sales leader.

Large and substantial layoffs like this take several months to plan and put together. There’s absolutely no way that these layoffs were Dan’s sole creation from 4 weeks ago. I’m positive Dan voted for the move, along with the other board members, back when this was originally conceived and decided. This isn’t something you just cook up over a 3-day weekend.
Dan is doing what he should do in this situation and that’s simply taking accountability for the direction that VZ is heading for. That’s what good leaders do. It also won’t hurt that Dan will be much more effective in selling these changes to the street.
This really su-ks for everyone; I know because it happened to me in 2019. I’m praying for everyone that has or will be impacted. I have friends and family that are patiently waiting (not sleeping) for tomorrow’s meetings.
Good luck and peace.

Hey guys I report to Dean Brauer from what I understand it’s going to hit hard your immediate teams will be cut in half. So everyone your with today only half will be there next week good luck v teamers

Don’t know if it’s an official “layoff” but people are disappearing left and right. Reorg in process, and some groups seem overdue. Production line ending now. Reply if you’ve heard of actual layoffs.

Has anyone heard about VCG Operations? Any talks of who is being riffed or any impacts to that department? Have they been notified? Are they being restructured?

There was the time that if you proposed downsizing Workforce and talent to increase Revenue you would be laughed out of the room and you'd probably be let go. These are easy solutions in our short-term gains for long-term sacrifices we used to run by the notion that if you lost somebody of 10 years it takes you 10 years or more to replace that person. Then we started analyzing to how long it takes to get somebody at a basic proficiency and that's what we're targeting we can't keep PSO Partners worth anything to turn over is insane the internals that we have of such a bad attitude and are unwilling to change tactics or develop new ones all we have little to no control over partners and what they do tarnishing our brand you're the most Innovative thing was 5G well the thing was there's four G's before it so it really wasn't Innovative at all it was like the 5th sequel to a movie now a lot of us have witnessed the growth of new cell phones and smartphones and they'll probably be like the biggest business growth that will ever see in our lives and what we did with that money was really stupid there's so much we can learn from it but to have someone new from the business try to change so much so quickly as just a disaster and it's insane that the board or the shareholders would trust somebody with billions of dollars within days like literally days of being appointed but we've seen this all before huge layoffs in the past year every single time what would happen before them are people who have been executive level and above resign or retire or move to a different position that's because what was being demanded was against their core values and if it's against the core values of extremely greedy people you know it's wrong even though it might be legal.

I know I'm kind of going all over the place just trying to say that times have changed it's sad to see The Innovation is dead. But I do foresee though is possible class action lawsuits for psychological trauma because everyone's psychological well-being has not been well taken care of during this situation this really should be something that's pursued I really highly recommend talking to an employment law attorney especially if you felt any anxiety or that you've had to take time off or that things have been really hard around the home or even if you include cost from seeking treatment and if you haven't definitely look into it because your mental well-being it's worth more than what any company could ever pay you

My manager is out and I haven’t heard anything from my AD or SD. Is that a bad sign? Am I on the laid off list?

As for me, I can’t see the silver lining in any outcome. I used to think I’d be relieved to be let go with a bit of money, but now I’m just anxious about what happens next if I am laid off.

Go to your directory find your SD go to each AD that reports to them copy them all onto a spreadsheet including the managers since their on the chopping block too. Riff at least 20% from that list after rack and stack everyone if you fall into the bottom 20% then you know the answer.

I did that last Friday and I'm good too go for now.

My 20% was about 16 people across 5-6 managers

Do with that what you will

I really need a good night’s sleep, jobless or otherwise.

In less than 48 hours, Squid game season 4 courtesy Dan Hatchet man!

Got a webex invite from my manager for tomorrow 10 am.

While we all wait for our fate, I wanted to share a story to help keep things in a little perspective.

This Taoist and Zen Buddhism "Maybe" story illustrates the principle that it is impossible to judge whether an event is truly good or bad fortune because one never knows its future consequences.

The Story of a Farmer:

Once upon a time, there was an old farmer in a small village.

The horse runs away:
One day, the farmer's only horse ran away. The neighbors came to offer their sympathy for his "terrible bad luck." The farmer calmly replied, "Maybe".

The horse returns with wild horses:
The next day, the horse returned, bringing with it three (or seven) wild horses. The neighbors exclaimed, "What wonderful luck!" The farmer again said, "Maybe".

The son breaks his leg:
The following day, the farmer's son tried to ride and tame one of the wild horses, was thrown off, and broke his leg. The neighbors offered their condolences for this "misfortune." The farmer replied, "Maybe".

The son avoids conscription:
A week later, soldiers came to the village to conscript all able-bodied young men for the army. Seeing the farmer's son had a broken leg, they passed him by. The neighbors said, "What good luck that he was spared!" The farmer simply replied, "Maybe".

The Moral of the Story
The parable teaches that events in life unfold in complex, interconnected ways, and what seems like a setback may turn into a blessing, and vice versa. The moral is to embrace uncertainty, practice detachment and equanimity, and avoid rushing to label events as definitively "good" or "bad"

A few months ago, we didn't know this person named 'Dan', and a few years later, he wouldn't matter as much, regardless of the outcome on 11/20. This is a phase, and it will pass eventually.

Are they doing it in the morning or waiting until the afternoon on 11/20?

Anyone have any idea what this is coming at 1600 today? (Tues 11/18/25)

Just randomly popped on my calendar, zero context or clues. No message or agenda included.

I don’t know if that means I’m on the chopping block or safe or maybe they are gonna offer me a different position if riffed

If everything crashes again on Thursday, I swear my heart is going to give out from the stress, because with the total lack of real communication from leadership, this place is the only spot where I can even try to figure out what’s going on. I’m begging the universe not to let this fall apart on D-day, because losing this one source of updates would push the anxiety into a whole different level.

I was a senior manager and was severed in late 2023. We were given like 3 months notice which was awkward. The worry, anxiety, feeling of being a failure was very overwhelming. The job market had changed dramatically since 2011 and I found it very frustrating to apply over and over to jobs I was 100% qualified for to not even get an interview. I made getting a job my job, worked at it 8 hours a day. It took 3 months before I landed a job....and it was an amazing job. 2 years later and things are still amazing. Way better pay, better work life balance, and they really value my abilities and skills. Verizon trains very well, and remember that you bring alot to the table that is very attractive to employers. Leaving Verizon does not mean lower pay. Being somewhere were you are more than just a number is refreshing. Not being at Verizon anymore is refreshing. Hang in there folks, you got this!

Who's still hanging around here with zero chance of falling asleep because your stomach is in such a tight knot that lying down just makes it worse?

Random, but is anyone else’s hair falling out? It feels like I’ve been living under constant stress ever since the relocation strategy was introduced with zero details.

These layoffs have been routine for 8 years. A lot of panic and anxiety on this board over the last week. Knowing you will face this in the future; if you make it through this round, are you going to search for another job or stick around?

I don’t know about yall, but the not knowing is actually worse than the rif. Just let me know what I need to do already.

Following today's announcement, I am seeking clarification regarding Thursday's schedule. I observed that two individuals, including myself, are not scheduled for a 15-minute meeting, while three colleagues and my Associate Director are scheduled for such a meeting around 1:00 p.m., and another meeting at 3:45 p.m. Has there been any communication regarding the purpose of these two meetings, or do they signify a potential change in my employment status? I would appreciate any insights from an Associate Director or Senior Director. Thank you in advance.

Masters of suspense. Who cares that we’re all twisting ourselves into knots over here.

is it the calm bofeore a coming storm? Selfie-king just posted about some org changes. Is that the beginning of a trickle down effect?

Multiple teams n same building told 2 work from home while otha teams n building aren’t being told that.

What does that mean?

People are wild guessing and sending themselves into apoplexy. Wait it out. Get drunk if you need to. But don't invent scenarios in your head that you don't know will happen. Don't do that to yourselves.

Am I alone in thinking something major is coming before the end of the year?