#fear

How is everyone feeling? I’m petrified but also ready to end this fear of something always lurking around the corner. I know there will be more layoffs to come, that’s a definite, and at least we won’t worry on that anymore but I have so much more to worry about also. Godspeed to everyone, best of luck in your journey.

I was trying to click on Elevance Health because they, along with other of Centene’s competitors, seem to be going through almost exactly same challenges Centene is.

Well, I accidentally clicked on Emblem Health, instead of Elevance, and their last post thread entries were from 2016 and they were saying and complaining about the very exact same thing as us…about the offshoring to India and Philippines, about the CEO laying people off to raise stock price and to line executive’s pockets, etc., etc. etc. It was like looking in a mirror and we are talking back 10 years ago.

The last post entries on the Emblem Health Layoff site ended after 2016 so I can only think the company went under.

Anyway, scary stuff!

I was trying to click on Elevance Health because they, along with other of Cigna’s competitors, seem to be going through almost exactly same challenges Cigna is.

Well, I accidentally clicked on Emblem Health, instead of Elevance, and their last post thread entries were from 2016 and they were saying and complaining about the very exact same thing as us…about the offshoring to India and Philippines, about the CEO laying people off to raise stock price and to line executive’s pockets, etc., etc. etc. It was like looking in a mirror and we are talking back 10 years ago.

The last post entries on the Emblem Health Layoff site ended after 2016 so I can only think the company went under.

Anyway, scary stuff!

I accidentally clicked on Emblem Health, instead of Elevance, and their last post thread entries were from 2016 and they were saying and complaining about the very exact same thing as us…about the offshoring to India and Philippines, about the CEO laying people off to raise stock price and to line executive’s pockets, etc., etc. etc. It was like looking in a mirror and we are talking back 10 years ago.

The last post entries on the Emblem Health Layoff site ended after 2016 so I can only think the company went under.

Anyway, scary stuff!

The environment is tainted with toxicity, fear and ugliness, including the behavior and communication from the leaders and colleagues.

Just saw Community Day in the news. Sure don’t miss that multi-hour, small-talk, forced-smile misery. Events like Community Day used to be the norm when Humana was truly part of the community and not wallowing in a culture of fear and retaliation. Glad I no longer have to deal with being volun-told to brand up for the public rah-rah. And I know I’m not alone.

Anyone feeling that all of this new AI agent deployment basically means it’s going to eventually replace all of us at the ground level? That town meeting today was very uncomfortable & felt like they were dancing around that issue.

Whoever runs this page just feeds into the craven fear people seem to love. Most people here sit at their computer and wring their hands itching and panting for the next bit of bad news to show up. Meanwhile, any jokes (e.g., the fake Kate post) get taken down. You all drool with fever waiting for "they got rid of everyone at the Broomfield office, it's empty" and "service delivery is getting rid of anyone with more than two children." Are you sad for yourselves? I know I would be if I lived for misery, real or imagined.

I'm the only one on my team who isn't terrified of losing their job. Everyone else is a robot, keeping their head down, acting submissive, silent, and never pushing back. It's depressing to see.

Fear doesn't motivate. It just empties the building of the people you actually need.

Nike employees below management already know how the system works. The people closest to the work carry the deadlines, solve the problems, document the processes, train the teams, and rescue failing projects. Management controls the narrative. When the work succeeds, leadership takes the visibility. When it fails, an individual contributor takes the blame.

Employees are told to be bold, challenge convention, speak candidly, and bring their full selves to work. But the real rules are very different. Do not challenge the wrong manager. Do not expose incompetence. Do not question favoritism. Do not document too much. Do not become inconvenient. And do not expect HR to protect you from leadership.

At LBJ Innovation, politics can matter more than performance. Personal relationships can matter more than expertise. Loyalty to management can matter more than loyalty to the work. Employees quickly learn that speaking up is only encouraged when what they say is safe, flattering, and easy to ignore. Raise a serious concern and suddenly the conversation becomes about your tone. Document a pattern and you become difficult. Ask for accountability and you become the problem.

The same company that publicly celebrates inclusion can become remarkably efficient at protecting itself when employees raise concerns about discrimination, retaliation, disability, or unequal treatment. That is how fear becomes culture. It does not require everyone to agree. It only requires enough people to understand the consequences of speaking honestly.

Employees watch underperforming managers survive while strong contributors disappear. They watch favoritism get reframed as trust, political loyalty get rewarded as leadership, and self-preservation get dressed up as business judgment. They watch the people doing the actual work treated as replaceable while those managing appearances protect their titles, reputations, and stock awards.

Most employees see it. Few feel safe enough to say it. That silence is not proof that the culture is healthy. It is proof that the consequences are understood.

Nike does not have a shortage of talent. It has a leadership accountability problem. Innovation cannot thrive where employees are afraid to speak. Inclusion cannot exist where vulnerable employees are treated as liabilities. Accountability cannot exist where managers control the story and workers absorb the consequences.

Culture is not what appears in a town hall, an employee survey, or a presentation about values. Culture is what happens when someone tells the truth and leadership decides what to do with them.

The people doing the work already know what the culture is.

They live it every day.

I hate this place so much, and I believe this leadership is capable of anything, including that.

I wasted three years in Nike's fear-based culture that drained everything from me. My new job is far from ideal, but it's still ten times better than Nike. The biggest mistake of my career was joining that place.

I'm stuck in this weird space where I can't bring myself to quit, but I secretly hope they lay me off. It would feel like being released from prison, finally free. I love the actual work, but the environment makes it unbearable. Half of me is terrified of getting cut. The other half is waiting for it.

Why are so many western companies being criticised by people trying to drag down morale? The ones posting hate at Dell: are they ex employees? Or paid to post and destabilise?
I don’t trust this forum anymore. There are real and genuine worries working for Dell and genuine layoff fears are now drowned out by people posting cr-p 3 times a day or more. Fear, lies and deceit. Beware of what you read here.

It feels like most of the people who could get out have gotten out. The ones still here are either too scared, too stuck, or still looking. I admit, I'm in the first group. Anybody still here because they genuinely want to be?

I didn't know you could feel both petrified and relieved at the same time. That's me today. I'm so scared of what'll happen tomorrow, but at the same time, I'm feeling relieved that it'll finally be over, and not a day too soon. A thoroughly strange feeling, I have to admit.

Has anyone else had constant org changes, and it’s not all adding up? As we approach the next layoff round, it’s getting very eerie around here. I’m a bit scared. However, it also doesn’t make sense to do all these org changes only for us to be laid off. I can’t make sense of it.

She walked by and clearly saw the job posting on my screen. When she asked about it, I lied and said I was looking at salary benchmarks for a friend. The look on her face told me she didn't buy it. Can I be fired over this?

it's all about fear now. no respect, no loyalty from mgmt.

and it's about to get even worse.

i'm unsure what to do. it looks like switching industries would probably make the most sense for me.

i'm not affected, but i'd hate to live in perpetual fear of the proverbial axe.

peace out.

Gunjan just said that remote employees are being grandfathered in. Can we please stop the fear mongering now?

Big big ai layoffs coming the rest of the year as companies push for huge ai adoption. This is global as companies are going in big with AI. This is scary stuff!

Verizon employees are on the ropes. How many more body blows can they take before they get knocked out for good. The company is an utter mess at the moment. Employees are shell shocked and trying to keep their heads down whilst wondering if it’ll be them that are laid off next. Running a company based on fear and uncertainty only results in one thing : failure

Is there a requirement for VP's to be sociopaths? They seem to be required to lack empathy or remorse and engage in manipulative behavior to achieve that level.

It is truly disturbing to watch them in action.

I think the annual RIFs are some kind of sick psychopathic game they love to play on us to keep people in line. It must give them pleasure to destroy people's lives year after year for no reason other than to advance their own career.

Crazy to consider things could have gotten worse. They have. High ego. High maintenance. Leads with fear and allows ELT to push that fear downward. Get even more done now! Open Enrollment better be perfect! Do even more with less! Get people back into the office! Why aren't we working on weekends? ELT is ramping up pressure across the board and the disconnects are even worse. Plus they pulled in McK and Del because, of course, we can't manage ourselves. This will be an unmitigated disaster in Q4. Disappointing to be sure, but if we were holding out hope for the new guy that did not work out. Clearly does not care for people at all. Plan and prepare accordingly.

What does it look like for these teams? Tulsa specifically. A layoff 6 weeks after your office closes is naturally pretty scary

I know people who've left FIDO and found so much joy. They tell me about the peace they've found and the stress that's gone, but I still can't do it. I believe them, but I just can't overcome my own fear of the unknown. What if I can't find something? What if it's worse? I know it's probably not, but I can't convince myself to take the risk.

Asked to relocate to save job. I have interviewed many places but unfortunately didn’t land any job. So it is evident to relocate. However I keep procrastinating that move, as I am being told multiple times here, that I will be cut after moving. Time is running out and I don’t know how y’all made that move decision and went forward. What was that one thing that got you out of your a-s and made the move despite of all these fears?

Any news of redundancies in Manchester? I am in constant fear of losing my job, I feel like I'm walking on eggshell every day.

Well,
My manager just put an invite on my cal for tomorrow at 9am sharp. Subject says "quick connect". I asked what this was in reference to and did not get a response. Let the games begin. US based, been here for 7 years.

I'm more stressed than I've ever been. I don't know if we'll ever get to a point where we can just focus on our work again and not have to think about layoffs every two weeks.

I've been thinking about who I was when I started here versus who I am now. I used to speak up when something was wrong and I always used to advocate for people. Now I just keep my head down and stay quiet, even when I see something clearly unfair happening. And I realize that's exactly what management wanted. They've created a culture of fear that's made me lose my voice. Knowing that has only made me more determined to leave as soon as I get the chance.

Sometimes, managers facing uncertainty about their own roles may make employee layoff decisions in an effort to protect their position, although the reasons for layoffs are often complex and vary by organization.

This site is called "TheLayoff.com", not "YouNeedATherapistButWontGetOne.com"...

it would be cool if anyone had any ACTUAL layoff information to post instead of having to read a bunch of grown adults bashing anything they can to cope with their fear of being laid off.

I’m an NCM on LTSS, which we know has always been considered a “money maker” for the company, but, on a serious note, what do we think our fate is? I know AI can’t completely do our jobs, but, I’m still very fearful.

If leadership is reading this, I encourage you to take an honest look at P. Di-kerson's track record since she joined. Consider the number of people who have left the team, the overall level of dissatisfaction, and the noticeable decline in morale.

I would challenge leadership to run a truly anonymous team survey. I believe the results would highlight concerns that many people are currently reluctant to raise openly.

Her management style creates an environment of fear rather than trust. Public criticism is common, feedback is often delivered in front of others, and people become more focused on avoiding blame than on doing their best work. Instead of encouraging ownership and collaboration, it drives people to protect themselves.

There is also very little visible self-reflection or willingness to acknowledge when her own approach may be contributing to problems. Accountability appears to be expected from everyone else, but rarely from herself.

I hope leadership takes these concerns seriously, as I believe the current environment is having a significant negative impact on employee wellbeing, engagement, and retention.

My first post and I said what the staff thinks. Employees work in FEAR. Managers will do anything to keep their jobs and upper leadership knows they themselves are incompetent so nothing is done.

Let me list what's wrong here. Incompetent leadership. No honesty from the top. Managers who promise one thing and deliver another. A terrible culture. Fear driven by constant cuts. And the only people who get ahead are the ones who know someone. Am I forgetting anything?

Well folks, more layoffs reported out of Estero today impacting Facilities and other departments. Other posts on social media indicating long timers quitting without jobs lined up. Forget back to basics and wasteful spending in throwing spaghetti at the wall and see what sticks. Anyone left should be terrified of what’s to come!

I want to take FMLA to care for my mother with stage IV cancer. I have heard horror stories about positions being eliminated while on leave. Anyone have experience with this?