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The UK problem nobody is talking about

Anyone else seeing what’s happening in the UK?

Good people are leaving, particularly women, and others seem completely burnt out. Yet we still hear all the usual talk about diversity, inclusion and people being our biggest asset.

Since the leadership change, the culture feels completely different. There seems to be a leadership style being imposed that just doesn’t translate well to the UK market or the way teams here have historically operated.

More pressure, more workload, questionable appointments and everything coming back to the numbers. People can deliver what’s asked of them and still somehow be told they need to improve.

And it’s not just employees noticing the change. Some partners and customers are starting to see the disconnect too, which should be a much bigger concern for the business.

NetApp UK used to have a great reputation and culture. It’s sad watching that disappear.


WTH 🤦

It’s maddening how toxic this place is. So many layoffs, no budgets for promotions raises etc. everyone is just so burned out in my org. Layoff after layoff, doing more with less. Meanwhile, record sales and the company livestreams GSX to all of us poors. Sales, product and engineering are all crutial parts of a business but it’s clearly a sales-over-everything business.


Rinse and repeat

We want to save money, so we hire people at the lowest possible rate. Then we burn out the good workers managing the bad ones. The good people leave, the bad ones stay, and we hire more cheap people to fill the gap. Then we wonder why nothing gets done. I'd rather have a team of ten people who actually show up and care, paid enough to stay, than fifteen people who are just sitting around, waiting for their next paycheck.


Top signs you need to find something new.

Key Signs to Leave
Chronic Burnout: You feel totally exhausted even after a full weekend or a vacation.
Constant Dread: You experience deep anxiety or the "Sunday Scaries" on a regular basis.
Toxic Culture: The workplace involves bullying, gossip, or a complete lack of psychological safety.
Bad Leadership: Your boss micromanages, demeans you, or blocks your basic needs.
No Growth: There are zero chances for promotions, new skills, or lateral moves.
Unfair Pay: Your salary is far below market value and requests for raises go ignored.
Value Mismatch: The company's core mission or actions conflict with your personal ethics.
Health Impacts: Work causes physical symptoms like headaches, stomach aches, or sleep loss.
Mental Check-Out: You no longer care about the quality of your work and just do the bare minimum.
Better Options Exist: You are qualified for and see realistic, healthier roles elsewhere.


Honeyhell ruined my life

Since I left a few months ago, I'm a new man. I didn't even realize how bad that place had become for my health. If you're finding yourself adding more and more medication on your list, try finding something else. You'll be shocked how your health will improve once you're out of there.


How many layoffs are we going to have before they realize we're already short-staffed?

I'm so tired of being expected every few months to take on even more work because people have been cut and their work has to be done. I can't do anymore than I already do. I won't. They can fire me if they won't, but I literally can't take any more than I already have on my plate.


The sad badge of honor

I had a colleague who bragged about not taking a single day off in two decades. He saw it as a mark of character, as something to aspire to. I told him he was a fool and he was genuinely surprised. That kind of thinking is exactly what's wrong with Elevance culture. There's nothing noble about sacrificing your health and your family for a company that would replace you in a week.


A message to Senior Leadership

The current situation at Canon USA is becoming increasingly difficult for employees and sales teams alike. After rounds of layoffs and staffing reductions, the employees who remain are being asked to take on more responsibilities, more work, and more stress—without seeing meaningful compensation for the additional burden. At some point, continually asking fewer people to do more becomes unsustainable.
The sales organization is facing its own serious challenges. Rising costs in both hardware and service have driven the overall cost of doing business higher, resulting in products and solutions that are increasingly difficult to sell at a competitive price. Salespeople are then put in the position of having to discount deals simply to get them across the finish line, sacrificing much of the margin and profit potential in the process. It becomes a frustrating cycle: prices go up, customers push back, discounts increase, and salespeople are left with fewer opportunities to make a meaningful profit.

Then leadership wonders why employees are burned out, morale is low, and people don't want to work.

The consequences are already becoming apparent. People are leaving, and it is becoming increasingly difficult to replace them. When experienced employees walk out the door and the company struggles to attract qualified replacements, the workload and pressure on those who remain only increases—creating an even bigger cycle of burnout and turnover.

Canon USA needs to recognize that this is more than an employee morale issue. It is a business issue. If the company continues down the same path without addressing staffing, compensation, pricing, sales profitability, and employee workload, the road ahead could become very dark.

Employees want to succeed. Salespeople want to sell profitable solutions. Customers want competitive value. Those goals are not mutually exclusive—but they require leadership to make meaningful changes before more good people decide that the best option is to leave


Time for a Sit Out! Tech All Hands was the final straw!

Part of the American dream is to get a job and earn an income. In reality this job is costing me more than the income can provide because of a RTO policy that the executives can’t even bother to acknowledge a single question about. (Remember the Q&A admin was removing them during our town hall) .

3 months in to this ridiculous RTO and I have spent so much money just to make ends meet. Daycare costs, a second vehicle just to get to daycare, gas, additional insurance, and time away from family have put me in the red week after week since mid May. Retirement contributions will probably stop soon. I have about 4 vacation days remaining because I had to use so many just to handle personal life. I never had to do that while remote. I can’t remember the last time I sat down and had a home cooked dinner with my family. Not a single executive is struggling from RTO side-effects. Regardless if their position is in-person only. They get the chauffeur and a security detail, if not they get a fat paycheck that makes up the difference. We are struggling. We are burning out. We are in debt. We are on the brink of collapse. Town hall was circlej3rk session about stock performance and a 5 minute q&a where we learned about one of bills favorite books. Recent tech all hands avoided questions like the plague. If you can’t provide us answers and solutions to your own policy then why should we comply? We will sit out RTO and become more productive doing what we were doing in our remote lives. We must band together and sit out as a whole.

Side note — stock price doesn’t reflect workplace morale/efficiency/product quality.


Any financial advice... layoff/leaving due to burnout

I am writing this just wondering if anyone with more experience than me would be willing to share any tips on how much a person needs to have saved in case of layoff or having to leave due to the stress and all that. There's so much info out there.... I've heard 1-3 months of bills, and then I've heard 3-6 months. Everything is so confusing and I don't really have anyone around who really understands what we are going through. Any advice would be helpful. Thank you in advance.


Not a relaxing weekend

I was certain that once most of the things were wrapped up, I'd be able to enjoy my weekends again. Yet here I am, still unable to let go and relax. I guess we've been under pressure for so long that some of us have forgotten what it's like not to have to worry, at least for a few months.


Why?

Been here 11 years and other than Covid this is the worst things have ever been. Moving too quickly before making corrections. Its causing burn out and patients are suffering. So many mid to upper level management positions and not enough feet on the ground. I personally know around 10 people looking to get out. Best preferred place to work my butt. They are ki-ling us! It has to stop. We have so much opportunity to do good here. I want to see things through but these uppers are forcing our hand. Every sector is a sh-t show. At least we have the AI roleplays set up though!


Don't be too helpful

When I started here, I was always willing to jump in and help when someone needed coverage. I figured taking on extra work would show that I was dependable and committed. Instead, those temporary tasks slowly became part of my regular workload, with nothing taken off my plate. I've definitely stopped volunteering as much.


Safe for now...

I was told the ISP is done for my department so I'm safe. But makes me wonder for how long. I just started at Centene in April after being laid off from another company. I'm so burnt out. I'm acting happy and taking on extra work but my morale is gone. I don't know how much I can handle the lack of ceos caring about their employees.


Outsourcing - Shame on Leadership

Aggressively moving towards Outsourcing, shifting high-value roles to teams in India and Argentina solely to cut costs. While this looks good on a balance sheet, the human cost in the US is devastating.
Domestic employees are being left with near-zero job security. They are expected to maintain high performance while constantly looking over their shoulders, wondering if their jobs will be outsourced next. This environment goes beyond standard corporate pressure—it is causing severe mental stress, burnout, and anxiety.Cost efficiency shouldn't come at the cost of basic human security.
Shame on their leadership, True Leadership means protecting the well-being of the people who built the foundation of the company. We need an open, honest conversation about sustainable global hiring practices that do not discard domestic talent.


You’re Forcing out the People You Really Can’t Afford to Lose….

I’m a former TDP. I’m exactly the kind of employee this company should be doing everything it can to keep.

I like the work. I like my team. I like my role. If it weren’t for RTO, I’d probably be here for a long time.

Instead, everyday I spend more and more time wondering if it’s time to leave. Not because of the work, but because of what the pisspoor leadership has turned this place into.

The morale is the worst I’ve ever seen. It feels like an “us vs. them” culture now. People aren’t motivated to go above and beyond anymore. They’re burned out, frustrated, and just trying to get through the day. Everyone is doing the bare minimum, checking the box, and says “who cares?” when a problem or a challenge arises. Nobody here feels valued anymore.

I’m burned out from a long commute that adds no value. I now work fewer hours than I used to because the time I spent getting ahead is now spent sitting in traffic. I’m less productive, less motivated, and honestly just exhausted. I’m worried if I stay here much longer it will destroy my work ethic.

We tell customers they can connect from anywhere, yet internally we act like our own technology isn’t good enough for us to use ourselves. How does that make any sense to anyone?

What frustrates me most is that I want to stay. I enjoy the work. I have a great team. I don’t want to start over somewhere else even though I know I could. But every day this RTO policy makes that decision to leave a little easier.

If leadership is wondering why the younger employees aren’t staying, maybe stop asking why they’re leaving and start asking why you’re giving them reasons to. The job isn’t pushing us away. Leadership’s decisions, RTO policy, and resulting toxic culture and rock bottom morale are.


Early career growth

As someone in early career, I’m finding it really difficult to make any headway in growing. I’m on a team that doesn’t really teach me or train me and is far from what I’m wanting to do with my career, yet all leads (stretch assignments, internal transfers) have been shut down. After the reorgs, we lost half our team but are expected to do the same amount of work, and I can sense everyone burning out.

How can I get out? The early career market right now is so bad I’m unable to get even an online assessment or interview from any of my applications. And since Nike is my only real experience, I’m not sure if recruiters view it as a good thing


CE Custody (now Fid Wealth)

Big Town Hall tomorrow being given by top leaders of CE Custody, now part of Fid Wealth. Anyone have any idea if it’s anything different than the usual upper management patting themselves on the back for the work that beyond burnt out depressed associates are doing and how low they keep expenses? Maybe some announcement about changes due to being a part of lovely Fid Wealth?


What do you dislike about your job/role?

If anyone asks what I dislike about my role here, it’s definitely the massive caseload. Every time it comes up, management just says it's because of our "contract obligations." Honestly, I don't get why they can't just hire more people to offset the workload instead of burning everyone out. What do you dislike about you role?


Living in fight-or-flight

I can't remember the last time I felt calm at work. Every time my phone buzzes, I brace myself for bad news. Every meeting invite makes my stomach drop. I catch myself holding my breath during leadership emails. It's not just stress, it's a constant state of low-grade panic. I know I can't keep living like this, but I don't know how to turn the volume down. I'm starting to realize that leaving might be the only way to get my head back above water.


They're forcing people to quit

I've seen it happen to three good people in the last couple of years. They asked questions, pushed back, or challenged a decision and within weeks, they saw repercussions. Their workload doubled, they became subject to constant criticism, and any support they had before simply vanished. They didn't get fired but they just got worn down until they quit. That's the BP way, I guess.


Stop being the ideal worker

So many folks at Nike don't complain, don't cause trouble, just do their work consistently and on time, and they get rewarded by being buried in even more work. Management sees your quiet competence as capacity for more. I speak from experience. Since I started complaining and saying no to more work, my life has improved significantly.


Do more with less… I’m burnt out

This is more or less just to vent, but I’m tired of the “do more with less” attitude here. I know I’m not the only one whose team has been expected to take on more work with less resources, make sense of vague information from leadership, all with no title changes or pay increases.
I’m categorized as a “high performer”, but I’m burning out and losing my will to care. I’m actively looking for a new job, but it’s a struggle to look for something on top of my workload. I don’t know if anyone else feels the same.


VSP Gaslighting

Is anyone else dealing with tone deaf leadership? Everyone has an opinion, but trying to gaslight people into thinking this is good for all is absolute bullsh-t. Taking the VSP isn't best for everyone. Even those of us dealing with burn out who feel ready to move on can’t just jump ship if our financial footing is unstable. Some of these so called leaders need to stop telling us how to feel about our livelihoods. I guess it's easy for someone pulling in mid to high six figures to believe that taking the VSP is an easy win.


Can PL Ask For An Extension

I’m part of the first group and my PL seemed very stressed out about that. said they wished I was staying longer.

my thing is I am done. my PL has piled on more work for me while allowing pi-s poor performance from others (and I have been doing their jobs for the last three years).

I have listened to my PL give every excuse under the sun as to why others can’t do better, including the fact that I can do the work faster and with high accuracy… so?

I know this is not a unique circumstance and high performers are usually given more work while others continue to coast. I’m beyond burnt out and exhausted.

I’m so anxious about them prolonging my departure instead of putting responsibilities where they belong, back to the people whose job it is. my actual responsibilities can easily be distributed, the work I do is not that complex.

the difference with my colleagues covering my work is I won’t be here. I covered theirs while they whined and complained about every. little. thing. they sat and got paid. I did it all. I’m done.


I'm about ready to walk away

I've watched so many experienced people leave this place in the last year. The replacements don't know the job and don't seem to want to learn. Meanwhile, management acts like the veterans are the problem. We're the ones carrying the weight, but we're the ones being blamed. It's exhausting.