But I’m a chicken. I’ve got a family, aging parents, bills that keep climbing, and debt that isn’t going anywhere, while the options out there shrink by the day. So yeah, I’m worried out of my mind. It’s not helpful, but I honestly don’t know how to... — read more
Say Yes!
Everyone should say yes to relocation and make the decision more difficult for management. This could also help boost your severance when you show a willingness to relocate but the company decides to separate you.
Ex Case Manager IOL 2020
I was a case manager for IOL 2020 layoffs, long since left. My tips for yall trying to survive: 1.) Mobility, max 2.) High Performers with salaries ABOVE grade not necessarily safe with intent being cost cutting. 3.) Experienced hires, good luck.
Got a coffee chat invite from my manager and was blindsided by security and HR
My boss set up a casual coffee chat to catch up in one of the corner meeting rooms. Halfway through the conversation HR and security walks in and I’m told I’m being let go. WTF is this cowardice move, at least have the decency to lay people off in a... — read more
Pension lump sum (commuted value) - can you only take it at the time you are laid off or can you take it at any time in the future?
Didn't see this clearly answered in the materials. Wondering if it is possible to keep it as is until a more ideal low rate environment, which would pump up the commuted value.
Looks like US is next....
https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k72ydbvw
FIFO is next to get the axe!
Next cost cut will be the end of flights and camps at Kearl. Relocation to FTM or severance!
Are promotions for AF personnel on hold?
For supervisors, when planning promotions for AF personnel, is the system indicating anyone for promotion, or are promotions currently on hold?
Difference in mobility surveys?
Anyone know what the difference is and why people are getting different ones?
Can you volunteer to be fired?
Don’t like where this company is going. Anyone know if you can volunteer to be fired or trade places with someone else who is?
This is a good one
I copied it from the ExxonMobil side of this website: https://youtube.com/shorts/ROHUBawQAPo?si=-37CT0-QZAOs7TOU
Will there be benefits changes?
Rumors down south are that there will be changes to benefits and enforcement of in office presence. Anyone have insights re pension changes from DB to DC or other? Elimination of EDOs?
Layoffs at Kearl
Who knows who all is going to be laid off at Kearl? Which positions,depts etc?
Relocation Survey
I thought the survey was supposed to come out today, am I mistaken?
Case for Change
How does XOM reconcile the narrative of "we need to collaborate and work next to each other" with the design to have remote support teams staffed with people who have no industry knowledge or communication skills? I don't question the case for... — read more
Speak out as a shareholder
Pretty well every employer is a shareholder. Speak out to the board and investor relations. If everyone floods them with messages showing disapproval as shareholders, the long term impact to the business they can’t ignore it. Even with exxon owning... — read more
Time to report IOL to regulators - engineering from non registered people in India
We are in massive non-compliance by getting engineering services from non-registered engineers from not only out of province, but out of the country. Report this while you can.
Am I the only one who simply doesn’t care anymore?
Lay me off or don’t, I don’t give a damn. I’ve been stressing so much and finally realized I’m destroying my health and for what? A company that’s happy to betray not just us but everything we used to stand for. I’m done with that. Yeah, losing my... — read more
Did you survive?
Curious which roles DID NOT recieve the dreaded severance estimate? Interested to get a feel for what was considered "out of scope". Don't have to get specific unless you feel comfortable doing so. Anyone else debating if there are even actual... — read more
Pension Adjustments and PAR
I just learned about this so want to share. If you're like me, you've likely had a large pension adjustment (PA) applied by the CRA every year only leaving you like $3-5k of RRSP room. The PA is calculated on your T4 each year and applied to the... — read more
Getting rid of people who know what they’re doing, again
The time will come, and judging by how things look very soon, when chasing cheap, unskilled labor will backfire. There’s only so much core knowledge and experience a company can drain before everything collapses. Sooner or later, corporations will... — read more
A Corporate Carol- Bah Humbug, you’re redundant
We must reduce the corporate surplus population!! What are the odds JW and DL were visited by the ghosts of Imperial Past, Present and Future this weekend?
⭐️ Friends, sharing this for everyone trying to estimate realistic severance ranges in Alberta energy sector.
Here are some examples of how courts have ruled on severance (reasonable notice) for long-service professionals, especially in Alberta’s oil & gas industry. Use these as reference points when estimating your own range. • O’Reilly v. Imperial Oil... — read more
Folks, we have way more power than they think...
This company does not care about you, and they think they can get rid of you in order to save costs. That is all this company cares about, is money. So, that is the way to make them hurt and feel some pain... We are all in positions where we can... — read more
Do not accept a demotion
Know that should they offer you a lesser role (lower level of responsibility, Supervisor to IC, etc) in Edmonton than you have today that could be deemed a demotion and also subject to constructive dismissal, and severance. Do not accept a demotion... — read more
Important Info : Severance Pay Calculation
I’m disappointed by severance estimate. Here’s how to get a high-level estimate using any AI tool, readymade script to use- • Permanent employee at Imperial Oil, based at Quarry Park Office. • Annual salary: $[X] • Current role: [Your Role] in... — read more
Definitely not worth breaking your back for any company
Especially not this one. I’ve been doing the bare minimum for a while now. The only times I’ve actually put in extra effort were to help a teammate in a bind. At least when I get the boot, I won’t have any regrets.
Cost reduction is a trap - signing your own layoff notice
Dark side - only way to survival They can only offshore things that are in perfect shape l, running smoothly, with cost targets achieved We learned that the hard way at Kearl and Cold Lake. We drove massive cost savings, brought the assets to... — read more
Canadians Deserve Better from Imperial Oil
Imperial Oil profits from Canada’s natural resources, while: Releasing emissions into our shared air, Firing Canadian workers, and Outsourcing jobs to India — all while Continuing to claim tax write-offs for foreign labour. This is... — read more
Object to Moving Soon or Forfeit Right to CD Claim
Google gemini helped me realize that if you are considering a constructive dismissal claim you likely want to consider working under protest within 10-15 days from the announcement. See below for more details. But if you don’t want to forfeit you... — read more
Severance Megathread
Severance estimates have been sent! 12y+, 70% of base salary. Working notice may be provided, nothing about RSUs.. What are your thoughts? Are you happy or disappointed? Will this impact your decision for the mobility survey?
IOL without XOM
ChatGPT Deep dive — Imperial Oil Ltd. (what it could’ve done if not constrained by majority stakeholder ExxonMobil) Insights • Peers (Shell, Suncor, Dow, Neste, Valero, global traders) show the pathway Imperial could have taken. • Imperial stayed... — read more
Severance amount
Starting this thread to compare severance amount. Affected employees supposed to start receiving estimate today. Severance estimate/year of service/current salary.
Lawyer
Anyone have an employment lawyer contact in Calgary who is not on retainer with IOL? Maybe we need to go outside Calgary? If you are a person who would like to leverage the guidance please respond.
Their plan
Imperial and the government are running the scam of the century. Lay off 1,000 people → claim it’s a “lack of projects” → pull in more contracts from the government → hand the work off to India. IOL’s lobbying team nailed it. Smith and the media are... — read more
Edmonton
So it seems that the majority of folks are planning to fake mobility to see what they are offered, even if they have no intent to move. Is this the play? If I declare immediately I am not mobile, and seek immediate severance, will I be severed... — read more
Everything feels like mass attrition
Every option on the table seems designed to make you quit, get you fired, or push you out in a layoff. Not even relocation looks like a saving grace if you manage to survive the cuts. It’s clear they just want to get rid of us and offshore everything... — read more
WFH arrangements - NOT!
It was asked if Imperial would consider work from home arrangements for those who are not able to relocate. The answer was a resounding NO - as the Company values collaboration which is most effectively achieved through face-to-face interaction... — read more