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Geos & Engineers and Upstreamers & Downstreamers

Alright, so want to really understand what salary curve differences exist between these groups.

How high Geos are vs. Engineers in the Upstream? Looking for CL examples.

What about Upstreamers vs. Downstreamers? How high is Upstream? Again give CL level examples.

Trolls, just listen or add your valuable commentary to the other posts.


Wow -- I received notification that the AT&T Guarantee is working!

AT&T sent me an email that I will be receiving a $0.33 credit for multi-hour internet outage earlier this week. AT&T, in the kindness of their heart, rounded up to make sure I was fully compensated for the outage. And to make it even better, I only have to wait a couple of billing cycles for me to receive it! What a great program!


One CEO

Check the 8K filings to see Clay got an increase to $1.5MM base salary retroactive to the closing in May and an LTI award of $2.7MM while everyone is told they’ll calibrate compensation next year. Clearly merit based because the merger is going sooooooo well. Everything else is a cluster F@$! Sh-t show but when I put my head down on the pillow at night I sleep well knowing we’ve got just one CEO and he’s clearly doing so well.


Remember when

Executives

  • dropped the 401k match
  • froze salaries for non hipos
  • dropped charitable contribution match
  • dropped education reimbursement
  • doubled PIP percentage
  • increased insurance premiums while reducing insurance quality
  • conducted layoffs with the lowest severance possible
    All while making zero changes to the executive bonus and compensation program, in fact giving themselves even larger bonuses.

sad

I received no raise, while execs... including Hemsley... continues to receive mega comp packages. If employes are being asked to accept stagnant pay because of the company’s performance and financial challenges, exec compshould be subject to the same scrutiny... and sacrifice.

I have been with UnitedHealthcare for more than 20 yrs & it is frustrating to watch longtime employees feel undervalued while leadership continues to be well compensated. Folks are tired of hearing the same corp messaging quarter after quarter without seeing meaningful improvements in our compensation or working conditions.

At some point, leadership needs to recognize that employee loyalty has limits. Period... If the co wants to retain experienced people, it needs to demonstrate that through competitive pay and meaningful raises - not simply words of appreciation. Employees cannot continually be expected to absorb the consequences of management decisions while executives remain financially insulated from them.

Its sad discouraging to see news about employees receiving little or nothing in additional compensation while the company's stock responds positively. That sends a terrible message to the people who have spent years helping build and operate this organization. Please start listening to employees and appropriately compensating the people doing the work. Otherwise UHC should not be surprised when experienced employees decide they have had enough and leave.


Ayman Prove Employees are the Most Important Asset

Take all the bonuses away from M4 and above.
Make all M4 and above take a 3% pay cut.
Give all M3 and below a minimum of a 5% raise.
Then we will believe that you truly understand we are the most important assets the company has and that we need to be compensated.


2025 MP/GP/ELT comp

https://www.financialadvisoriq.com/c/5115064/722894/edward_jones_chief_penny_pennington_dips

According to this article, PP's income took a 3.5% cut and only took home $27.8mil in GP earnings. In fact, the top 6 partners (including FL who's now retired) took home over $130,000,000 in GP comp last year while our pathetic little LPs earned only a fraction of the GP shares.

2025 GP comp from this article:
PP $27.8m
AM $21.3m
KC $21.7m
DC $19m
KJ $21.3m

FL* $20.4m

TOTAL $131.5

  • FL retired at the end of 2025

Yet while they roll in the dough, we're faced with layoffs, offshoring, AI and the lowest morale I've ever seen in more than two decades. Shoot... each of these partners will make more money between now and 12/31 than most of us will ever see in our lives, much less be able to accumulate & grow for our own retirement.

It's been said before... you don't hate these trolls enough.


What is the deal with Dell’s level steps?

Why can’t I7’s become I9 without first being an I8? These levels are so antiquated and old school. If an I7 is doing an I9 role, just promote them or at least pay them accordingly! Dell is very far behind in the times. Almost functions like the Fed govt. The longer you’re here, the higher you get based upon longevity, not talent or skill.


Fidelity RIF, Unpaid Share Awards & the "Active on Dec 31" Clause

I checked the Q2 2026 NAV, and for those of us impacted by the May RIF, it's not being applied to calculate share payouts at all. It looks like nothing is being paid out post Q1. If that's accurate, years of earned compensation is just... not being paid.

I want to call out something I think is genuinely unethical about how Fidelity is handling this. Over the past several years, instead of raising base compensation, Fidelity leaned on share awards as the reward for performance. Grants from 2-3 years back that were supposed to vest and pay out over time. I put in the work to earn those.

And here's the part that really gets me: there's a clause that says you have to be actively employed on Dec 31 of a given year for those shares to pay out. Fine, maybe that makes some sense if someone quits or is fired for cause. But when the company eliminates your role — not for performance, not for anything you did — and then uses that same clause to withhold pay for work you already did years ago, that's not a "policy," that's a loophole to avoid paying people what they earned.

Fidelity talks a lot about ethics. It's in their marketing, their values statements, all of it. But quietly using a technicality to avoid paying out shares that employees earned through actual performance, right after eliminating their jobs through no fault of their own, is the opposite of that. You can't claim to value your people's hard work and then strip the payout the moment it's inconvenient for you.

Fidelity needs to actually listen and do the right thing here. Pay people what they earned through years of hard work, instead of swiping it away on a technicality the moment it's convenient.

Curious what others think. Is anyone else pushing back on this, or looking into next steps?


Regardless of Layoff Panic

Lots of floating discussions on upcoming layoffs.
Regardless few facts to consider even you survive ...

  1. You are always on the chopping block just waiting for your time
  2. Oracle is always a low-payer and during this transition its going to be worse
  3. Promotions are going to be night mare
  4. Ratings are also getting bad (Usually in Oracle we don't care ratings much. but now we do)
  5. We stick with old technologies (POJO - Plain Old Java Only)
  6. AI is driven at each org. but without heads and tails. You prepare an axe to cut yourself.
  7. Favoritism and Bureaucracy sits at top.
  8. Job hunting takes time even you survive now. So better start now
  9. Managers are always not good. They might seem sweet to you now. What happens to your colleague can happen to you tomorrow. You are just a paper cup.
  10. People come for signing the confluence papers and running the meetings. But they don't come for sharing your workload and pain.

It's crazy how much BNY is paying talented employees to leave

BNY doesn't seem interested in keeping talented employees. They're paying some truly great people to walk out the door with each new layoff. I don't understand the strategy. You pay people to join, you invest in them, and then you pay them to leave? The math doesn't add up.


Inside America’s most generous 401(k) plans

Story by Celia Bernhardt, Sarah Nassauer

The tax benefits of putting money into a 401(k) are well known. But not all 401(k) plans are created equal.

Take Costco, for instance. Many thousands of the retailer’s front-line, hourly workers have managed to amass over $1 million in their 401(k) accounts, thanks in part to a contribution that Costco makes whether or not the employees themselves are putting money in.

For employees with at least a year of service, Costco contributes an amount equivalent to 4% of their pay. That rises as employees accrue tenure, so workers who have been with Costco for 25 years or more receive a 9% contribution. The company also has a small match that allows employees to receive up to an additional $500 annually if they contribute $1,000.

For Costco, it’s one of the ways, alongside inexpensive healthcare and higher-than-normal hourly wages, that it retains experienced employees. The company places a premium on keeping turnover low, a strategy its founders believed would reduce costs associated with training new hires and lead to better customer service.

Some companies go far and beyond, offering jealousy-inducing match rates to win over prime talent. Employers in specialized fields who want to stay neck-in-neck with their rivals often conduct benchmark surveys to assess what kind of benefits are most attractive to their staff and what is offered by other companies.

Here’s a look at other better-than-usual retirement benefits offered by employers across industries.

A high match rate
The average company 401(k) match is about 4.7% of eligible salary, according to a Vanguard analysis of plans it manages. Only 6% of those plans offered a promised matching contribution totaling 7% or above in 2025.

A select few employers hungry for talent go well beyond that.

Southwest Airlines, for example, offered a dollar-for-dollar match of up to 9.3% of employees’ salaries in 2024. Boeing boasts an even higher one of 10%.

Competing credit-card giants Visa and Mastercard offer better than a dollar-for-dollar match. Visa will put in $2 for every $1 that an employee deposits in their 401(k), up to the first 5% of their pay; Mastercard puts in $1.67 for every $1 on the first 6%. Both of those add up to a 10% total employer contribution, but employees don’t need to put away as much in order to get it.

Although the most important number is that 10% total match, the warp speed matching rates are attractive, said Chris West, a managing director at human-resources consulting firm WTW.

“It’s distinctive,” West said. “It probably creates really strong incentives for employees to contribute. It’s also really easy to communicate.”

Nonelective contributions
With a limited matching program, the strength of Costco’s 401(k) lies in its nonelective—or nonmatching—contributions.

Nonmatching contributions are often structured as profit-sharing plans or, less commonly, as an employee stock ownership plan. Of the plans included in Vanguard’s report, 37% used both matching and nonmatching contributions; 11% used solely the latter.

Tobacco company Altria Group matches employees up to 3%—but add that to its profit-sharing plan and workers get a whopping 13% to 17% employer contribution in total. The Aerospace Corp., a nonprofit government contractor, also uses a 3% match but provides a total of 12% for the longest-tenured employees through added nonelective contributions.

The practice is more common in some fields than others. Legal-services firms are disproportionately likely to opt for nonmatching contributions alone, according to Vanguard data.

Unionized workers at Ford and General Motors receive a 10% nonelective contribution as their retirement plan. The employer contributions were bumped up from 6.4% as part of contract negotiations in 2023. Both automakers transitioned away from offering pensions to new hires about two decades ago.

An employee stock ownership plan, a specialized retirement plan to which a company contributes shares of its stock, is often offered in combination with a 401(k). ESOPs are most common in sectors including manufacturing, construction and engineering. The structure is thought to give workers a sense of investment in a company’s success and, in some circumstances, provides the business a tax break.

Publix, a Florida-based grocer, automatically provides employees with shares of the company’s stock after they have clocked in 1,000 hours within a year and offers an option for them to purchase more.

Stewart’s Shops, a regional gas and ice-cream chain in Vermont and upstate New York, operates an ESOP-only program in lieu of a 401(k). The company says its employees have seen retirement contributions of 17% on average in the past five years.

Publix and Stewart’s both say that some of their cashiers have become millionaires through stock ownership. Stewart’s puts the number at over 200.

Student-loan benefits
Boeing’s benefits don’t stop with a good match—it is among a growing group of employers that allow workers to receive matching contributions for some of their student-loan payments. A Boeing worker who puts 10% of their salary toward paying off a qualified loan will get a matching amount from the company in their 401(k).

It’s a relatively new program launched after the passage of the federal Secure 2.0 Act in 2022. That bill expanded the features employers can include in their retirement plans. Among the many other companies that have hopped on the bandwagon are Verizon, Chipotle, Comcast, Walgreens and News Corp, publisher of The Wall Street Journal.

Write to Celia Bernhardt at celia.bernhardt@wsj.com and Sarah Nassauer at Sarah.Nassauer@wsj.com


Tyson Foods Faces Protest Over Job Cuts

Tyson Foods is facing significant backlash from its employees and the community. Workers gathered to protest recent mass layoffs. The rally demanded full compensation and benefits for all affected employees. This action highlights the economic impact of the company's workforce reductions. The community is showing strong support for the laid-off workers.

Davenport, IA

https://www.kwqc.com/video/2026/08/21/tyson-foods-workers-rally-joslin-plant-protesting-mass-layoffs/


Total Compensation

Can you please share how much Technical Leaders (Grade 11 or Grade 12) earn in RTP? Salary range in NC seems to be: $187000.00 - $274,100.00

My brother earns $195K Base, 13% Annual Cash bonus, 6% 401K Match and no RSUs in his current job. What would be a strong offer to negotiate along with relocation?


Team childcare subsidy for carrying extra workload?

A question regarding benefits:

On my team, two employees are employees are effectively working reduced hours because they have childcare responsibilities during the workday. Why isn't there a “carrying the extra workload” bonus for the colleagues who are actually working their full contracted hours?

If I’m expected to attend the meetings someone else can't make because of school pickup, wait for work that can't be completed because someone's toddler needs attention, cover tasks during someone's childcare gaps, wait for the child to stop screaming and interrupting our meeting, work around someone being unavailable until their partner gets home, accept “my child is on my lap” as an explanation for why something wasn't done, pick up urgent work because someone working from home is, quite literally, looking after a 2-year-old…then apparently my reward for being available during my contracted hours is… more work?

Maybe we should stop calling this a WFH arrangement and start calling it a team childcare subsidy.

If someone's actual availability is 30 hours a week because of childcare, fine...but why is everyone else's salary still paying for 40 hours while everyone else's workload quietly becomes 45?

Just wondering what the proposed compensation is for the people who are actually expected to work the hours they're paid for.


Insane

I’ve never seen a CEO completely ruin a company faster than Clay has managed to. Gives up the board and exec team. Doesn’t address the massive pay discrepancy between the two companies when the better performing company is the one being underpaid, and now he lets the only Exec with brains/ba--s walk in Raines.


I Think Alex Chriss was a Fall Guy

I can't prove it but it's what I think. When Alex was brought on as CEO, everyone was like WTF this guy is at best an EVP at PayPal and definitely not CEO material. Enrique joined the board in 2021. When it came time to hire Alex, every board member was not on that search to hire him/her. It was only Ann Sarnoff, John Donahoe (then the chair), David Dorman, and Enrique. It ultimately did go to a full board vote but Enrique was on that initial candidate review team of four that narrowed downt he list. Eleven months after Alex started, Enrique becomes the board chair. With Donahoe, shareholders voted for him. With Lores, it was not done that way. He was appointed via a governance committee. About 1 1/2 years after Enrique becomes chair, Alex is sacked and Enrique is appointed.

Writing from me but data below from ai research and SEC public info discovery.
Alex Chriss (2023) vs. Enrique Lores (2026) equity when hired:

Regular RSUs: Chriss $16.75M | Lores $16.5M
Performance RSUs: Chriss $17M | Lores $16.5M
Make-whole RSUs: Chriss $10M | Lores $20M
2027 RSUs granted upfront: Chriss $0 | Lores $11M
Special stock-price award: Chriss $0 | Lores $25M

Total listed equity: Chriss $43.75M | Lores $89M - dan's comp was less than 30 million btw. Now you tell me how important WE are in this equation? We are not. I've never felt so disgusted with a company.

finally, one more question, why tf was Enrique's comp almost doubled over Alex Chriss? I also looked at his compensation at HP. our equity package was 4x that what he had at HP. something is OFF with all of this. this is what I am doing instead of working as I wait for the axe to come down. go to h*ll PayPal.


A message to Senior Leadership

The current situation at Canon USA is becoming increasingly difficult for employees and sales teams alike. After rounds of layoffs and staffing reductions, the employees who remain are being asked to take on more responsibilities, more work, and more stress—without seeing meaningful compensation for the additional burden. At some point, continually asking fewer people to do more becomes unsustainable.
The sales organization is facing its own serious challenges. Rising costs in both hardware and service have driven the overall cost of doing business higher, resulting in products and solutions that are increasingly difficult to sell at a competitive price. Salespeople are then put in the position of having to discount deals simply to get them across the finish line, sacrificing much of the margin and profit potential in the process. It becomes a frustrating cycle: prices go up, customers push back, discounts increase, and salespeople are left with fewer opportunities to make a meaningful profit.

Then leadership wonders why employees are burned out, morale is low, and people don't want to work.

The consequences are already becoming apparent. People are leaving, and it is becoming increasingly difficult to replace them. When experienced employees walk out the door and the company struggles to attract qualified replacements, the workload and pressure on those who remain only increases—creating an even bigger cycle of burnout and turnover.

Canon USA needs to recognize that this is more than an employee morale issue. It is a business issue. If the company continues down the same path without addressing staffing, compensation, pricing, sales profitability, and employee workload, the road ahead could become very dark.

Employees want to succeed. Salespeople want to sell profitable solutions. Customers want competitive value. Those goals are not mutually exclusive—but they require leadership to make meaningful changes before more good people decide that the best option is to leave


GM made $23M this year

https://www.medicaldesignandoutsourcing.com/medtronic-ceo-pay-2026-executive-comp/

This is a 10% raise from 2025 Meanwhile stock down 27% last 5 years. Congratulations. Great job GM

Imagine the amount of RIFS that could’ve been saved if these people like GM take a pay cut for the incompetence. Sadly accountability doesn’t exist in this company. And instead they get raises.


Dell Q2 Commissions

I left Dell at the end of July, and as of now, there are still no sales numbers available for commission sales representatives regarding their performance. This situation feels fundamentally unfair. I'm curious if anyone has initiated a class action lawsuit, as the rollout of One Dell Way should not have occurred without ensuring that sales performance data was fully accessible to us.