#performanceimprovement

As others here I'm on PIP. First time on this strange improvement plan program...

Failing a PIP means always to get separated from the company??

I'm unsure what to expect after meeting my PIP goals. Hope, everything will be ok. I really need this work to feed my family.

Europe country. PIP today.

I was put on a PIP this early morning after 1:1 with my manager.

I can see the light at the end of the tunnel...

Hi,

My manager sent me an email with PIP goals. Should I sign the document or I can reject it?

They told me is to improve my skills but after reading all the threads I think the idea is to RA at some point...

Are they a thing?

Or is it useless to even try?

I was put on a PIP today in France... what should I expect after meeting PIP's goals?

I'm wondering how log do PIPs last in Europe? (1-3 months?) After the PIP what should I expect?

If you are NSI this year be very careful before choosing to try the PIP. This year managers have been told they will not be allowed to pass people on the PIP. Managers are scared of going against the guidance as passing people will be seen as not willing to make the hard choices that management material need to make. You are better off taking the PIL and using the time to look for a job.

There was one at my old job, so I'm just wondering if there's something similar here.

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/cruzcorral_pip-corporatehumor-work-activity-7434656145543409664-9dID?utm_medium=ios_app&rcm=ACoAACDWavgB0LGL5W2TtBE3pepi5Q5gBI1-dF8&utm_source=social_share_video_v2&utm_campaign=copy_link

IBM will silently laying people off after the stock crash... From what I've seen, this is how they do it:

They suddenly label people as "low performers" (making up stories if they have to) and try to push them into quitting.

They put people on PIPs (1–3 month Performance Improvement Plans) and then fire them. The goal seems to be avoiding severance.

They make your work life miserable until you leave on your own.

If you're thinking about joining IBM, I'd honestly look somewhere else. In my experience, the company doesn't have many interesting projects anymore, and management is pretty bad. Most managers have no clue how to lead or manage teams.

Just my opinion based on what I've seen in this company over the years.

Can Execs get PIP’d or demoted to Non-Exec due to poor ranking?

Source: https://seekingalpha.com/news/4612389-medicare-advantage-bonus-payments-exceed-13b

There’s a difference between cutting costs and building capability. Lay off enough institutional knowledge and eventually the people who know how to improve quality, member experience, and operational execution are gone too.

The consequences don’t show up in the next town hall. They show up later on the scorecard.

Sarah said it loud and clear: ”When the market changes, we change.”

CMS had a different way of measuring change and just released its annual performance review.

UnitedHealth: $3.9B in Medicare Advantage quality bonuses. CVS: $2.0B. Humana: $1.5B. Kaiser: $1.2B, with virtually 100% of Medicare Advantage members in bonus-eligible plans.

Centene: $21.5M (yes MILLION) Just 6% of Medicare Advantage members are enrolled in bonus-eligible plans. Approximately 882,000 members are not.

Industry average: 68%
Kaiser: 100%
Centene: 6%

Overall Rating: Needs Improvement.
Performance Improvement Plan: Recommended.

Free advice to management: Organizations get exactly what they optimize for. If every decision favors short-term margins over long-term capability, don’t be surprised when competitors outperform you on the metrics that actually matter. You can’t outsource institutional knowledge or lay off your way to operational excellence. Institutional knowledge isn’t overhead. It’s the capability that drives quality, operational excellence, and sustainable results.

I’ve read some PIP experiences where people mentioned scorecards, weekly or biweekly check‑ins, PIP goals, and coaching.... Can someone explain the PIP process in detail? What are these terms ?

There's actually a PIP week here? It's not a year-round thing? Haven't been here long enough to know, but if it's true, I like it.

Don’t normally attend these monthly calls but decided to tune in today. Well that was an hour wasted. Mainly insufferable people droning on in corporate speak about absolute BS. Main takeaway was hearing that 400 UK staff are on a PIP? Is this bell curve requirements, something for middle managers to do, a tick box exercise or all 3? Oh and not a word about pay review.

I've seen multiple people placed on PIPs in the last six months. It's making me nervous. Is this just how things work here? Or is it a strategy to document people out the door so they don't get severance? I'd really like to know if I'm being paranoid or if this is a legitimate concern.

Is IBM using PIPs to exclusively get rid of employees who are US citizens?

Do you know of any H1B employees have been been put on PIP and fired for not being able to successfully complete the PIP.

How sc--wed am I?

In my experience, not many.

My manager, who can't stand me for some reason, has been working overtime to find faults with my work, so I'm guessing there's a PIP in my future. In my last company, PIP meant you might as well leave right away. Is it the same here? Should I start looking for something else right away?

I guess I should start packing my bags?

I mean sure, surface level they su-k. They load you up with impossible metrics to meet, MORE work, and basically make your job impossible. Most half smart people know it's a way for HR to get rid of you... without firing you.

BUT, a PIP is typically at minimum 3 months and sometimes even 6 months. That's 3-6 months of PAYCHECKS, Insurance, etc... Take advantage of that and spend 95% of your time looking for and applying to new jobs on dells dime. The thing with PIP's is that they can be extended so long as their is progress being made. So the key is to work and at least TRY to improve but, don't put too much effort into it also.

A PIP is a fantastic package tbh. Far better than what you'd get if you were laid off. Also, if you do find a new job within the PIP time period, you can quit dell and that PIP doesn't get recorded by HR. It basically never existed. PIP's are recorded ONLY if you pass it, or fail it and are then terminated.
Source: Have been PIP'd before.

OP: @gv+1ks2vwndd

This deserved its own thread.

I remember many years ago an employee who was 53 dared exxon to fire him. He was arrogant and rich so he did not cafre. He was told by hr that he did not have to complete the DPC. He barely attempted to do any of the stuff on the plan and even missed many of the meetings with the boss. In the end he passed and was left alone for a few more years. There were many loke him as we called them retired in place. One machinist just walked around all day with his coffee. He worked on a single part for a months just taking his time. Another NRE fellow would hide out all day and disappear. One old guy told the management he did not deserve to be on dpc and refused to participate. He passed as well. Even employees on pips passed at high rate years ago. It has all changed now and the pass rate is very low. Pips used to be common when you were in your sixties now the can happen at any age.

One of my teammates is on one right now, and he knows he’s as good as gone, with nothing to show for it. At least with a layoff, you get severance.

Once you're on it, you already know how it ends. I really hope no one is fooling themselves into thinking they can fight it.

I've had multiple coaching memos doesn't take a genius that they want me gone lol.
How long do I have until a formal PIP?

Anyone had success getting out of PIP? Or once you are on it, you are done?

Is PIP something that can happen, or do you simply get fired, no chance to improve, if you messed up?

Or do you get the whole thing to "improve," no matter what?

But Employee visited maybe once a week or month. Additionally, there are various tools and adapters available that allow for remote access to different ports without violating any Information Security controls or processes (very simple tools on Amazon/Ebay).

The introduction of the USB New RTO policy, which includes a 2026 Talent and Performance Metric that logs hours at a hub or triggers a Performance Improvement Plan (PIP), has become a subject of humor within the corporate environment, often leading to memes that ridicule the corporate productivity policy and how not to be a CEO or how not to treat your employees.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/exxon-says-iran-war-will-curb-1q-production-by-6-4aa8c83e

What kind of id--t loses revenue with $100 oil price? As a shareholder, I demand DW get NSI ranking, and if he ever does this again in the next five years, be fire!

What happens when you go on these plans? Metrics are ridiculous. Being faulted over something that is not in your control.

Is PIP a death sentence at Chevron? Is there a point in trying to beat it?

Are you given an option for improvement plan? If so, can you decline and receive severance?
How frequently are we seeing NSI given to MPT employees in Canada ? Seems more common than in US.

Ready for another round?

Over 300 people have already left since the September 29 announcement, projects are scarce, meaningful work even scarcer and the long-term outlook for Canada couldn’t be clearer. Naturally, this seems like the perfect moment to proceed with the ranking cycle.

For those unfamiliar with the tradition: everyone gets ranked against colleagues worldwide, the curve must be filled and a pre-determined slice of the population will inevitably land in the “Needs Significant Improvement” category because nothing says modern leadership like deciding in advance how many underperformers you need.

From there the process is beautifully efficient: a helpful Performance Improvement Plan, a quiet exit and the reassurance that this isn’t a layoff just the system working exactly as designed.

Given the current morale and the steady stream of departures, the timing is almost poetic. If anything, the exercise should help clarify priorities for the few remaining optimists.

After all, when the future of the business in Canada looks this bright, someone will surely be eager to relocate to Edmonton and help keep the Strathcona refinery dream alive.