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Asking for $60 billion in debt financing

I know AI is all the rage, but when I see we're looking for more than $60 billion in debt financing, I can't help but wonder how much risk is piling up. That's a huge amount of money, and if the AI bo-m slows down, I don't want the employees paying for it through more cost-cutting or pressure to hit impossible targets.


U.S. National Debt (Record Growth)

U.S. National Debt (Record Growth) -

(Current) $39.9 Trillion (and rising).

(Current) $111.0 Billion in Interest (and rising) paid (each year) by U.S. Taxpayers to Investors that finance it (U.S. based, Japan, China; etc.) via U.S. Treasury bonds.

(Current) 123.19% Debt-to-GDP ratio - (2000) 56.63%, in (2025) 98.0%.

May 2026 - The U.S. Treasury called the U.S. Government (Insolvent).

(Current) Fed Balance Sheet - $6.76 Trillion (and rising).

There are consequences in the future, yes the Fed can print (Fiat) currency; but that causes devaluation-debasement of the U.S. dollar over time.


From Simply Wall St.

Fiserv
FISV
Last Price $52.41
My Fair Value Select

New major risk - Financial position
The company's interest payments are not well covered by earnings.

Net interest cover: 3.0x
This is considered a major risk. If the company is unable to fund interest repayments on its debt through profits, it may be forced into reducing its debt burden through selling assets, undertaking a potentially costly capital raising or even into bankruptcy in the worst case scenario.


Private equity only works because Peter G. Peterson advised the US to remove the dollar's link to gold.

Private equity only works because the United States dollar is no longer linked to gold.

Now, when the United States needs more money they can simply print it out of thin air. It doesn't have to be linked to a physical asset like gold.

This means our economy runs on high debt, high inflation, and an ever expanding economy built on a hollow stack of cards.

This allows private equity to skyrocket since their business model works because inflation always goes up in service of their debt.

Inflation always reduces the real value of your debt.


where did vz go wrong?

to tell the truth when lowell mcadam's made all these bad aqusitions and cause a incredible amt of debt to this company,you know what im talking about,the arrogance of the wireless side of the company,nickel and diming the customers for 30 years.lowell pitting non-union against union workers,do you really think that you can come back from all that B.S also you think that most of the employees in verizon give two craps anymore,maybe at one time most did,but i dont think so anymore.most people here are just making end meat in these times .so you think hip hip horray go Vteam means anything,wake up and smell the coffee


EchoStar Subsidiary Cuts Hundreds of Jobs

EchoStar's satellite subsidiary, Hughes Network Systems, is laying off 330 employees. These job cuts will occur across three facilities in Montgomery County. The company cited financial challenges and debt repayment as reasons for the layoffs. This action follows reports of EchoStar preparing to file for bankruptcy to address significant debt. The layoffs are scheduled to take effect on September 22nd.

https://www.thebanner.com/economy/montgomery-county-echostar-layoffs-66A4NMSGP5EA5DMDPB3N7HN5YE/


Riddle Me This

I understand senior management milking this whole game of grabbing cash till it is gone. I also understand older employees staying until social security is close. Perks of vacation time and free travel to events must be great for them. But, how is any second tier lien holder of this debt calculating they will get all their money back?
With stock dropping causing loss in investments and the REAL debt being said it would be closer to 9 billion, what bank would possibly feel ok with this?
Could someone explain this? Are there hidden advantages here somehow.


A simple plan to get the company back on track

A Very Simple Plan to Reset AT&T

  1. Cancel the new HQ project and redirect that capital toward the things that actually matter. Use a portion of those savings to fund a responsible workforce transition and right-size the company for the future.

  2. Give employees a choice. Offer virtual status to roles that can be done remotely, and provide location incentives for those who choose to work in-office or whose roles require it. Stop treating every employee the same and start managing based on outcomes.

  3. Get aggressive on debt reduction while prioritizing fiber expansion, network investment, and the technology needed to compete.

  4. Restore trust with employees, rebuild the culture, and focus everyone on winning instead of compliance.

AT&T doesn’t need more buildings, more bureaucracy, or more policies measuring where people sit. It needs a clear strategy, disciplined capital allocation, and a workforce focused on innovation.

The market rewards companies that make hard decisions and invest in the future. Get the strategy right, and the stock will take care of itself.


ORCL collapsing. At this rate, Larry will be bankrupted sooner

Larry made a bad bet on AI and will cost him his island and fortune.. His age clearly shows in his lack of judgment to put all eggs into one AI basket and will now be the poster child of the AI collapse. Laying off employees that were keeping the company afloat to adapt an unproven and premature AI approach that costs too much to run is a recipe for disaster. Oracle is now a sinking ship drowning in debt. It won’t be long before it becomes a $5 stock


GoPro Layoffs? The end is near?

GoPro appears to be in serious financial trouble, with founder Nicholas Woodman lending the company $20 million while it searches for a buyer or new funding. Revenue fell 26% in the first quarter of 2026, camera sales dropped 29%, and the company plans to cut 23% of its workforce by the end of the year. Although GoPro is launching new professional cameras and exploring opportunities in aerospace and defense, it is facing heavy competition from Insta360, rising debt, and doubts about whether it can remain in business without a takeover or major cash injection.

https://amateurphotographer.com/latest/photo-news/going-going-gone-is-this-the-end-of-the-once-mighty-gopro/


Reminder of IBM's debt (to worsen later this month)

IBM's debt grew 5.2 billion dollars in the 3 months leading up to the last report:

https://finbox.com/NYSE:IBM/explorer/total_debt/

R.A. stands for redundant assets, maybe Arvind can sell IBM's trademark and goodwill to raise money.

"IBM goodwill and intangible assets for the quarter ending March 31, 2026 were $89.333B, a 13.86% increase year-over-year."

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/IBM/ibm/goodwill-intangible-assets-total


AA Debt

34.78 BILLION with a "B" !!!! Only 3.3 Billion left to use in revolving debt . Think about that ! They still hang on to the idea of sending a huge amount of money to Tulsa operations . Other airlines farm out maintenance and don't have to pay for health insurance , retirement , costly union rules etc . One twister in Tulsa could wreck the maintenance system of the airline for years . Playing Russian roulette ... Is Tulsa an asset or a drain ???


In trouble ?

Oracle is the only major hyperscaler funding its AI buildout with massive debt and deeply negative cash flow (compared to cash-rich peers like Microsoft, Amazon, and Google) If backlog conversion stalls or financing terms tighten, the leverage introduces extreme risk


Stock Market Signs

On a day when the Nasdaq was up 3%, OTEX was down. That’s a major warning sign that institutional ownership and interest is poor. A rising tide should float all ships. The market isn’t buying the OT story. The upticks since earnings have dissipated. The upticks from stock buybacks have disappeared.

No sales of the non-core business units = no ability to pay down the debt. Best of luck to all my friends still hanging on (most of my colleagues of 15+ years are gone). There has to be some major changes or the long term outlook is a continued slow sinking of the SS Barrenechea.


Debt fever

As the following article concludes, Oracle has debt obligations around a quarter of a billion dollars.

What is the interest on that amount?
Does everything have to happen perfectly for 15 years to pay that off?
What is plan B?

https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/oracle-debt-fever-only-prescription-140741343.html


I doubt Verizon stock goes to $75

Dan will never get stock price to $75. Verizon is $175 billion in debt, paying $8-$9 billion per quarter in interest payments. Not only that, technology is moving fast, which means the next telco displacing newcomer is waiting on the wings. Verizon is paying today for 20 years of bad investments. No amount of inflation will save them from bad debt and investments, especially since cellular plan prices have gone down and increased data to unlimited. If you adjust today’s telco charges to inflation, not good for Verizon, even if it helps the debt burden.


VZ Stock will never see $75 per share

Dan will never get stock price to $75. Verizon is $175 billion in debt, paying $8-$9 billion per quarter in interest payments. Not only that, technology is moving fast, which means the next telco displacing newcomer is waiting on the wings. Verizon is paying today for 20 years of bad investments. No amount of inflation will save them from bad debt and investments, especially since cellular plan prices have gone down and increased data to unlimited. If you adjust today’s telco charges to inflation, not good for Verizon, even if it helps the debt burden.


Verizon is in 175 billion in debt

Verizon is burning through CASH faster than the revenue we are bringing in and after expenses,its public information… if Dan doesnt change this ship around fast this company is going under faster than we all think.thats why everyone panicking at the top, why do you think everyone is leaving its not because Dan fired everyone BTW.


FIS Layoffs-Update

Layoffs are expected to accelerate this near into next as the company shifts to AI. Several "reorgs" in waves to be expected according to insiders close to SF. Interest rates are not coming down as quickly as expected and this is putting pressure on not being able to refinance the debt load at lower rates as wages pressures and benefit costs accelerate.


American Expediting Closes, Lenders Refuse Funds

American Expediting will shut down its operations. This closure includes layoffs at its Media headquarters. The company's lenders refused further financing. They also did not approve debt restructuring. These actions led to the company's shutdown.

Media, Pennsylvania

https://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/news/2026/06/08/american-expediting-layoffs-closure-logistics.html


WBD have eaten Stankey's lunch!

Yes, that's right. Stankey & Stephensen paid top dollar to acquire Warner Media, then sell it to Zaslov @ WBD for pennies on the dollar, then WBD is acquired for more than at&t purchase price. You can't make this stuff up, Stankey is the laughing stock of the business world. AT&T total debt is at $136B, that's billion with a B!


Baffinland Iron Mines Avoids Layoffs Amidst Creditor Protection

Baffinland Iron Mines confirmed no layoffs are planned at its Mary River mine. This announcement came despite the company filing for creditor protection on May 15. Baffinland faces a $1 billion debt from a failed 2022 expansion effort. The company has until June 3 to repay its significant debt. Inuit associations have hired lawyers to protect Inuit rights during these proceedings.

Nunavut

https://www.thespec.com/news/canada/nunavut-mining-company-says-its-not-planning-any-layoffs-inuit-associations/article_1c65a8fa-4955-5e44-9738-1583abe0ac31.html