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Today’s leadership guidelines
“All managers are mandated to be in the office logged into the LAN 11 hours per day or they will be terminated.”
We can’t make this place rules up!
Make the move
At AT&T, I’ve come to understand that the true path to long-term success isn’t just about individual performance—it’s about alignment, proximity, and shared commitment to the mission. For many of us who have advanced in this company, moving closer to the operational and strategic center in Dallas has been a turning point in our careers.
I made personal sacrifices to climb the ladder of success—leaving behind familiarity, adjusting to new routines, and prioritizing the demands of the role over comfort. Those decisions weren’t easy, but they created real opportunities for growth, visibility, and collaboration that simply aren’t as accessible from a distance.
Dallas represents more than just a location; it represents focus, teamwork, and accountability. Being physically closer to leadership and cross-functional teams strengthens communication, accelerates decision-making, and reinforces the shared obligation we all carry to deliver for customers and for each other.
From a business perspective, this alignment matters. When teams operate with tighter coordination and fewer barriers, execution improves. That kind of operational efficiency and cohesion is ultimately good for performance—and by extension, supportive of long-term shareholder value and stock strength.
In that sense, moving to Dallas isn’t just a personal career decision. It’s a commitment to the broader team, to the company’s direction, and to building a stronger, more unified organization.
Fidelity Mandates Five-Day Office Return for Many Staff
Fidelity Investments will require many employees to return to the office five days a week. This new policy begins in September for staff at its Boston headquarters and other locations. Managers at the vice president level and above are also included across all company sites. Previously, most employees worked two weeks in the office out of every four. The company believes physical presence fosters connection, mentorship, and learning.
Boston, Massachusetts
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2026/04/30/newsletters/fidelity-return-to-office-five-days-boston/
Rumors of IPs being laid off?
Is there any truth to the rumor that people who received inconsistent performance rating last year due to not following in-office adherence will be laid off? I am on a very small team and I believe I am the only one on my team who got an IP so I’m freaking out. My role is a grade level 3 phone role.
Lack of enough presence in office in Q1 may also be on chopping block next week
Lack of enough presence in office in Q1 may also be on chopping block next week
Any update on in office requirements
Rumors are rampant on why the changes to number/hours in office have not been communicated. I’ve heard they want to wait until after the survey, or I’ve heard it’s because there’s some employment/legal issues that need to be addressed first. I’ve also heard it’s on pause until they have more data and what / who needs to be addressed (like coffee badgers) But does anyone have reliable information?
How many hours/days are you coming into the office?
Has anyone been flagged for not coming enough?
20 minutes short
Only working 2 days this week due to pto. I will be 20 minutes short of the in office expectations. I know days average out over time but if I worked more than 8 hours last week, will that cover me?
What are they doing with contractors
Many of us have contracts with no office requirement and I think if they force us in it could be a miscalculation in some states especially in MA.
5 DAYS. ONE TEAM. MORE SOON.
“5 DAYS. ONE TEAM. MORE SOON.” WTF... seriously? It’s being framed like some kind of exciting announcement, when for many of us even 3 days in the office already feels excessive and outdated.
If this really means pushing to 5 days, it’s not going to strengthen the team. It’s going to do the opposite. The best people will quietly start looking elsewhere, and those who stay? Don’t expect engagement or extra effort. You’ll get the bare minimum, because that’s what this kind of decision signals back to employees.
And honestly, if last year’s VOE survey results were already bad, just wait for this year’s after this kind of policy. It’s hard to imagine them improving under these circumstances.
Personally, I’m already planning my coping strategy: books on my phone and tuning out as much as possible. Though that might be difficult with coworkers who treat zoom calls like they’re shouting across a stadium instead of speaking at a normal volume.
It’s frustrating to see something that impacts people’s daily lives so heavily being communicated with vague slogans and zero transparency.
Who's ready for 4 days in office!
By this time next year, should we expect it to move to 5? Anyone jumping ship?
RTO
Cats out of the bag boys and girls. If you’re in certain sites you’re going back 100% from September.
So how’s RTO going?
Work at a different bank and curious how your RTO5 (return to office 5 days a week) is going? Are people doing it? Coming in late/leaving early? Any modifications or messages from sr. Execs? Thanks for any info.
As much as it stinks...
Just please lets all look out for each other, and do what we are told. It's awful but working in an office beats getting fired for non-compliance and then not having one to work in at all...
After all, it's what we all make of it.
RTO in 2027
Someone posted on fishbowl that full return to office in 2027. Does that mean remote workers would have to relocate to keep jobs? Or do you think just those hybrid will be required 5 days a week.
5 days/week RTO for some orgs June 1
Gross. Supply chain/procurement.
In office expectations
I hear that KTD managers were told that their local employees need to be in the office a certain percentage of the time. And if the employees don’t hit that that quota the manager must explain why.
This leads me to ask, what is the percent that will trigger the need to report on an employee? And what are the consequences for the employee? Because up to now there has been 0 enforcement of this policy.
Mindless Executives Ruining The Farm
I started in 2010 under the Rust years. The golden years of State Farm. Ed treated every employee like family. I worked in the old Mid America Zone and boy were we treated right. I had coworkers in the Murfreesboro and Newark offices who loved coming in. I knew people in Kalamazoo and Winter Haven who were working when Ed Sr still ran the place.
Fast forward to Tipsord. We knew he was going to change things, but he didn’t hide it. He knew what he wanted and despite the old culture pushing back and keeping him in check - after COVID he at least had some respect for us (although more likely he knew he was retiring soon and didn’t care anymore).
Now we have Farney. He’s been with the company for decades. Several soon to be retirees thought (as I did) that he’d bring back the golden era (or at least something akin to it). Boy were we all wrong. Everything that comes out of this man’s mouth is ‘we do it because our competitors do’. What happened to the State Farm that led this industry? What happened to the State Farm that treated customers like neighbors because executives treated employees like family?
It’s a sad day when people in the HUBs have to go in office more when 40% of the workforce gets to work from home full time. This company isn’t State Farm anymore and honestly I hope this year shows the board that the current C suite is not equipped to be leaders.
Do employees in India have the same in office requirements?
Do our WFIP staff have to be in the office 3-4 days per week for 8 hours a day too? I realized I haven't heard a word about it from anyone, ever, so am curious how evenly the rules are being applied. Probably another best kept secret to alienate the US employees hat Charlie hates so much
Anyone hearing of 5 day RTO being announced?
With or without set daily schedules?
Coffee Badgers have got to go...
Every time I see stories about “coffee badging,” it’s hard not to feel frustrated. Some people are effectively gaming the system and collecting paychecks, while others are putting in real effort and trying to make a meaningful contribution.
FIRE THEM ALL!
Connect Disaster Incoming
A handful of Grade 8 AND above confirmed big changes come September for Connect Weeks. Apparently they will be pushing for near 100% in office time and it will be up to each organization, site and lower management’s problem to figure it out. Upper management will send the decree, wipe their hands of it and hold low level associates feet to the fire. No excuses. Gloves off. They’re not happy the forecasting for senior associates quitting didn’t go as planned and now? The rest of us must pay. Thoughts?
FAQ say we are responsible for 60 percent since January
How is this legal? So 11 days was good, but now they say it’s no good because new rule is 14 to 15 days, depending on the month. Applies retroactively since January since expectations was to be in office…but for 15 days????
Data for the RTO tracker is wrong, but there's a new message
It says, "NOTICE: In‑Office Adherence data quality has been corrected for most team members; however, VDI and some Mac users may still experience incomplete or inconsistent data. This notice will be removed once the remaining issues are fully resolved."
A supposed Workday date fix is in progress
Workday currently has a message that reads, "NOTICE: We are actively addressing an issue affecting the accuracy of In Office Adherence data. As a result, a data update is currently in progress. This message will be cleared once corrective actions are complete and validated."
Ivanti log in while in office showing 0 days in office.
Newish employee. Prompted to log in ivanti while in office. I just work off my laptop not the monitors. Report is showing me as in office 0 days. Why is this? Stressed out over here!!
IP Address Tracking is OFFICIAL
Per the comms sent to all employees from the CHRO, in-office time is NOW being tracked and measured. So all the rumors can be put to bed because designated hybrid employees are being tracked for RTO indeed.
RTO Tracker Missing Days
I come into an empty office 10-12 days a month. Why are my days missing? How is this goal bring tracked? Are we going to start tracking all of the “extra hours” I put in at home after being on calls all day.
The wait time for HR is 70 minutes. I am not giving up on this. Someone should have validated this data before publishing.
RTO - Does anybody actually stay for more than a few hours?
ALL they care about are badge swipes. That's it. Swipe your badge and you get a gold star for "going to the office."
But does anyone ACTUALLY stay for a full workday? I mean, I drive an hour to the office and stay for 1.5-2 hours and then go home because why stay? Cafeteria food prices are way more expensive than ever and none of the food is not worth the price. One person on my actual team goes to my office and we both leave at the same time. Which is typically 11:30-12pm.
8 hours in office??? This real!???
Someone said when they asked if in office mean 6 hours or 8 hours and the response was they are tracking people to be in office 8 hours .
Wtf!
This can’t be real, no one is staying exactly 8 hours a day in office
This isn’t real
Or is it!???
Reporting to management what days we plan on being in office
Was informed we need to be telling management what 3 days we are going to be in office each week. If we need to change a day we need to be letting management know. This feels beyond the rto requirements. If we are hitting our 11 days a month why does it matter what days we are in office. The micro management is at a all time high. Is this happening across the board or am I just lucky?
Just received confirmation that they are now tracking us for 6 hours in office via IP tracking
So that’s why they have that stupid new goal about being present in office or some garbage.
Man, what about those of us that take long and frequent bathroom break because we are old and have fiber and bladder problems??? Every trip to p-e takes over 10 minutes to walk back and forth, and it takes a long time to empty it out because it drops so slowly as a 60 years old.
I am so glad I am retiring this year. I feel horrible for the young folks and all the folks that were hired as WFH and took a lower salary, now have to spend money to commute
Where are HealthSpring employees (hired post-acquisition) supposed to report in the office?
My whole team is remote. I was told that I need to go to the office 3 days/week starting April. Nobody knows where I'm supposed to be reporting... the chicago office has 50+ stories. There was zero guidance during my orientation.
Unpopular opinion: truly dedicated employees want to be in the office
A lot of quiet quitters and underperformers on this forum
Iselin
April 1! You ready for the Hunger Games? 4 days in office 8 hours a day. Those microwaves are going to be cranking all day long. Seats will be hard to come by and those Focus rooms will be filled to the brim with all the “look how important I am” workers.
The Keyboard and mouse at each station will be filled with germs and who knows what other funky bits. And those bathrooms, oh those bathrooms will ripe with unbelievable smells.
On the other hand, the collaboration that will take place will be incredibly helpful to furthering the foundation of Tech and Risk across all teams. For once WF got it right. Only way to make it better would be to have everyone come in 5 days a week. That’s just a pipe dream at this point, I guess. But a dreamer can dream