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Verizon layoffs coming

Layoff’s are set to start happening on November 20th, 2025 and this is all due to Verizon struggles in losing customers and rising cost. This is a message directly from new CEO. Sales representatives have now been trying to unionize and HR is going to stores to try to prevent this from happening.


HR call regarding ‘working together model’

Had a meeting with HR this afternoon about a few days a few months ago where I had no transportation to work and was relying on an evening ride to get my badge swipe. My direct management was aware and, supposedly, fine with it. Our team also has the unofficial ‘official’ go ahead from our global head to leave once we’ve logged 4 hours in office, but that’s beside the point I guess.
HR called it a ‘fact finding’ meeting and had no concrete answer when I asked what next steps were and when I could expect to hear back. I’ve seen posts of people being let go for the same basic reason and am just wondering if anyone has had a similar experience? Meeting first and then termination to follow? Obviously can’t change the outcome now, but I’m still curious.


Too much going wrong with SAP

I had been lurking on this site for a while and decided to post today because I couldn't handle it any longer.

As a long-term SAP employee, I can no longer identify with the organization. We've always had reorganizations and layoffs, but I've never seen the Board and HR be so anti-employee and put employees against one another.

Here are some trends I am noticing:

There is no MOVE SAP for T1-T3 personnel.
Annual salary appraisals are not even close to inflation, thus we lose money each year.
HR-focused managers instead of development managers.
Hiring freeze.
Travel freeze.
Rumors regarding closing locations other than Walldorf and St Leon Rot.
Replacement positions only in low-cost areas.
Anti-migrant sentiment.
Board compensation increasing dramatically each year.
Almost every German employment is offered solely in Walldorf and St Leon Rot.
Performance management is a reasonable approach to pay employees less.
No more catalyst or comparable schemes.
AI-first strategy, but showing no business development.
Organizational restructuring, such as HPOM, is built on influencer propaganda.
The stock price has plummeted.
Board says regular layoffs are non-negotiable without giving a good reason.
Stupid AI replacing important support, QA, IT and development functions instead of HR.
Employees coerced into giving their managers spectacular unfiltered reviews or forego salary increments.
Share buybacks.
Budget available for executive travel and entertainment but not development.
Stupid online courses instead of career focused learning by human experts.
Legal troubles.
Acquisition after acquisition without integration of acquired employees.
Only the same people getting the big jobs and promotions everywhere at SAP while others haven't found a new position in years.
You have to be a balding German white male based near Heidelberg to land a good management position.
Anti-women sentiment.
Executives openly making derogatory statements without any consequences - equating life altering career changes to brushing teeth.
CEO having no foresight or long-term plan to improve company and instead blatantly lying about things like "we'll create new 15000 positions in India" only to follow with layoffs everywhere.
Managers given so much power that it is more important to keep your managers happy than your customers happy.
Reduction in benefits.
Anti Muslim sentiment.
Week long party budget in some areas (Signavio) while other areas suffer and don't even have budget to hire development consultants.
Too many HR employees who in turn say we have too many QAs, developers, product managers, designers, etc.
Fake career progression plans as the only way to grow is to find another job.
Too many "innovation teams" that create stuff shown at Sapphire but it never makes it into production.

I can go on and on but this is already a long list.

What do you think? Do you share a similar sentiment? Do you agree or disagree with any of the items listed here? Having a good stable job without politicking seems almost hopeless at SAP.

In the past, points like these were enough to fire board members. But now the transfer of wealth and power from employees to executives is normalized. What can employees do to get back power and ensure a stable career at SAP?


Nike HR: Can’t get it right for themselves

I’m genuinely curious if anyone else wonders what’s going on with Nike’s HR function. The constant layoffs, reorgs, and shifting structures are confusing at best and destabilizing at worst. If HR can’t get things right for themselves, how are they supposed to get it right for the rest of the company?

In my experience working with that team, it’s a mix of highly competent people and others who are… not. Like many parts of Nike, it often comes down to who you know and how willing you are to step over others to get ahead.

The latest move…eliminating the head of Recruiting and burying the function should be a signal to everyone. Maybe the person in the role wasn’t the right fit, but that’s neither here nor there. The bigger concern is the direction of the function as a whole. It feels like we’re heading into a darker period, and the signs are all there.


Panera year three of corporate layoffs

From Reddit:
I'm not talking about the dough facilities. I'm talking about corporate staff.
There has been no notifications, no conversation, no announcements. I think this is standard operating procedure for a company that is currently being sued for failure to notify about layoffs.

Every day a different department has had people let go and by my count there are about 30 or so who have been let go. Some are offered early retirement, some are just called into a meeting with someone who is not their boss and that is that. Almost of them have been at Panera for more than 10 years. This is not who we are supposed to be but when someone shows you who they are, you should listen and so should we.

More than a few people have said that layoffs will continue until next week but no one actually knows because no one is actually saying anything. I think the only reason they are doing it this way is because they laid off a bunch of HR people last month. I'm sorry, they did not get laid off, they were told their jobs were moving to Boston and they could apply but they would get no bump in pay.

Here is what you need to do:

  • Stay calm. The decision has been made and nothing you can do will change it.
  • Give recommendations and get references. Have one last conversation with that friend or manager.
  • Download or offload anything you want to keep. Performance reviews and letters that say you did a good job, those are yours, those belong to you. Anything you produced like reports or summaries of your work, save it, change some numbers and keep it because you want to remember what you did.
  • Start looking for work now. This company is sinking and so are our opportunities.
  • If you work in the office, bring a bag in tomorrow and be ready to walk out.

If you survive the cuts keep looking for work. This company is on its way down and it will not help your career to ride it out looking for a nice severance. Our sales have not been this low since the pandemic. The people in charge have zero understanding of what this company is.


Brace for impact

So 15k is the number. Which is still short of the 20%. So most likely round 2 will be after January. Those lists were already made as most people suspected. If anyone has actual details on how the layoff procedure works from prior experience, please inform us is there an HR call is there a WebEx? And what are the details of the actual severance if there is any?

one out of every 10 will not be here after the following week. That will be one out of every five after January. Sad state of affairs.


HR in this company is totally UNTRUSTWORTHY.

Can you imagine any other workplace where an exec indulges in verbal thuggery?
Here the CTO uses abusive language at the drop of the hat.

What does the HR do?
Pretend like nothing ever happened.

Do we really need such utterly spineless HR guys?

P.S: I hope the HR folks get to read this.


Sigh

It’s honestly a sign of how many entitled people we have here who are overly obsessed with wellness week. Working 9 to 5, in person, at your desk… with PTOs… is that really that difficult?

And for HR, if the goal is to let these naïve people out, raise the lifetime discount bar from 5 yrs to 10. You’d be surprised how many people would end up leaving, since that perk, along with wellness week is what so many seem to value the most.


Incompetent HR/Benefits team

I’ve retired, still not Medicare eligible and my insurance carrier is changing during COBRA. I don’t know why. I’ve called HR/Benefits 3 times, each time I speak with someone, they tell me that I will have answer within a few days. I had the one person create a ticket number, of course, no one informs me of anything. Today, when I called for the 3rd time, rep tells me the answer they put in the ticket was “insurance carrier changed”. No sh$$ sherlock, yes I know that, that’s what I’m asking is why did it change.
Would anyone know why it would change. Yes, my address changed to a different state, so I’m assuming that’s the reason why.


Being honest gets you nowhere!

I was laid off Monday — in a 30-second phone call.

What doesn’t make sense is watching people with multiple ethics violations in a year keep their jobs. I guess being close with HR has its perks.

It’s frustrating when the people meant to protect confidentiality don’t, and when accountability seems optional. Those of us who try to do the right thing end up paying the price.

It’s disappointing, but my integrity is something no one can take from me. I’ll be okay — and I’ll always choose honesty over politics.


The ghost of past SWN wrongdoings is putting jobs in danger

Way and his band of merry VPs and directors are leaving us all in peril, one more time.

"The hack job they did during the merger have led to a wave of dissatisfaction among investors, who are now seeking their rightful compensation. It remains to be seen who will ultimately bear the cost of these developments". This is clearly a straightforward decision, and HR is well-equipped to handle the situation effectively.

Happy bean soup Thanksgiving and merry humble pie for Christmas, y'all!


News: What HR can learn from Condé Nast’s Teen Vogue fallout

Company: Condé Nast
Source: Human Resource Executive

When layoffs go viral: What HR can learn from Condé Nast’s Teen Vogue fallout
Summary: After folding Teen Vogue into Vogue.com, Condé Nast laid off six unionized Teen Vogue staffers, sparking protests and subsequent firings and suspensions. The piece outlines communication lessons for HR leaders to avoid similar blowups during workforce reductions.
City: New York
State: New York
https://hrexecutive.com/when-layoffs-go-viral-what-hr-can-learn-from-conde-nasts-teen-vogue-fallout/


Pulse Check

This is something I’ve observed and was curious if others have seen the same. I’ve seen females rise faster within EJ home office than male colleagues. Obviously there are many males still being promoted and serving in leadership positions but is HR pushing gender as a reason to promote when all else is equal? Are others seeing this? Maybe just a small sample size.

I’m sure this will get downvoted and I’ll get ripped for even asking, but I’m genuinely curious.


HR

HR at this company stopped being about people a long time ago, they love to talk about supporting employees, WLB, open communication. but try bringing them a real issue and see how fast they shut down. The second you speak up youre labeled as negative or not a team player. Totally useless. All effort is made to protect the higher ups and the co, nothing for the worker. Disgusting.


Toxic Work place

This place checks all the boxes for toxic workplace.

Negative communication: Excessive gossip, rumors, and backstabbing are common.

Poor leadership: This can include micromanagement, favoritism, lack of transparency, and fear-based leadership. (Actually seen a an executive belittle and humiliate someone on a zoom call. Totally lacking in empathy. I thought… couldn’t you do it in private? Why try to make an example in front of others so they are afraid to speak up?)

Unhealthy work habits: Lack of work-life balance, excessive workload, and unrealistic expectations. (Overheard EMS jokingly say that people here have heart attacks on the job here and refused go get medical treatment because of the competitive environment.)

Psychological unsafety: Employees may feel punished, humiliated, or rejected for speaking up, leading to a culture of fear. (I spoke up once during a meeting. An executive didn’t like me disclosing fact and accused me of hiding information. Instead of taking it up with me, the person went to my boss and a level up to complain.)

Conflict and disrespect: Bullying, harassment, and a general lack of trust are prevalent. (I lost the number of times I was bullied. HR does nothing about it. They exist to protect the company, not you.)

High turnover: A high rate of employees leaving the company. It’s necessary because they need the turnover to feed the pipeline of new victims.


8 hour in-office expectations officially updated on teamworks

I noticed new items have been added in the expectations. Consider this an official warning that HR can use against you.

  • In-office days are expected to be eight hours in the office (i.e., don't come in at all if you can't stay 8 hours, even if you're coming in an extra day more than required).
  • Employees who need to leave early for medical appointments or childcare should come in extra hours in-office on other days or "talk with their managers." (like the 3 day requirement, your managers should be able to override it on a case-by-case basis if they document it beforehand).
  • Half day PTO of all forms of time away count as in-office days still, even with the 8 hour requirement going forward.

self evals

Does anyone even bother with the Self Evaluation anymore? I’ve done it every year, but nothing from it ever makes it into my annual performance review. Management seems to decide ratings, bonuses, and merit increases without taking it into account.

Our management is saying we have to do it, but enterprise wide email says its optional across the company. Is there any actual consequence for skipping it? Honestly, it feels like the outcomes come annual review are predetermined anyway.....


Liars

Credit Admin was told to work from home due to ceiling repair. The following week layoffs came. Turns out there was no ceiling repairs. They needed all the admins at home to give them the boot via zoom.


Got out of jail card

Received my get out of jail card this week and I'm over the top delighted. Over the last 10 years, this place has become so toxic, it's sickening. Pay for performance is a joke. Senior managers, who don't know the staff or what they do, are forcing lower ratings to get their 25% (used to be 10). If you don't have enough, they force more. Bonus amounts, given by direct managers, are changed by higher ups. It's unethical but don't bother reporting it. HR works for them, not us.
Save as much money as you can. Print all your employment records. Use their training portal to take resume building classes (after your AI training to replace yourselfof course). Go into the office, stay all day, and keep your head down. I wish you all the best of luck.


So did everyone look at their job profile?

What do you think? Are they all as shockingly bad as mine ended up? Email yesterday said 70-90% in line with current responsibilities, mine is literally 0%. It was clearly written for an entirely different industry.

It's frankly embarrassing how disconnected HR is from the reality of what we do.


Separation re-employment question

Since HR is basically worthless, anybody know for sure if you can work during the separation period? There's conflicting info in the paperwork I received. I know you couldn't during the SUB pay days, but I thought that changed when it switched to the lump sum. Buried in the middle of an 80 page document there's a comment about paying back a pro-rated amount if re-employed during whatever amount of time you received severance for.


Does every conduct investigation by HR/ER end up with MAP status?

Let's say you're investigated for conduct, you got drunk and obnoxious many hours after a post-work event. Does that basically always end with MAP (Misconduct Accountability Program) status? That means it's impossible to get higher than a 3 rating, and you also get 0% raise and at most -20% on last year's bonus.