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After a 75% Drop, Here’s Where I Am

I’m being straightforward here: I’m not keeping my money in Fiserv anymore. In 2025, I tried to offset some of the losses by buying as we slid, hoping we’d stabilize. Looking at my vested RSUs now is just discouraging. In a single year, we lost nearly 75% of our value. I know it’s technically a paper loss, but it’s hard to see it as anything other than a disincentive.

We also haven’t seen meaningful insider investment from leadership. It feels like we’re in a defensive crouch — holding ground, cutting costs, and trying to ride out the storm. I still believe this company can turn things around, but 2025 took a lot of the loyalty out of me.

As we head into Tuesday’s announcement, all we can really do is hope together. With the lack of clarity and vision from the top, hope is the only thing we’ve been given.


Question on RSUs

Now that we see Crown Castle is going to weasel out on the RSUs for the 20% of people they are laying off tomorrow, it made me wonder about this corporate squeeze-play they are doing with RSUs for those in the perimeter.
I’ve been a project manager long enough to know when a project plan has a massive hole in it. Right now, the company is spinning this "retention incentive" like they’re doing us a favor. But look at the math: they are accelerating what we already earned from last year, while completely cutting us out of the 2026 LTI grant.
There are over half of us moving to Zayo or EQT. That means over half the company just got hit with a massive compensation gap while those remaining get the full bag.
For those of us in the field, those RSUs are a huge part of our total pay. If you take that away, it’s basically a constructive pay cut.
A few things that don’t sit right:

  1. The SEC filings say the company has to operate in the "ordinary course of business" until the deal closes. Skipping a standard annual grant for a couple thousand people doesn’t sound like "ordinary course" to me. It sounds like a budget hack to make the books look better for the buyers.
  2. Does this trigger "Good Reason" for us having a material reduction in compensation is grounds to walk with full severance.
  3. We already saw the Byler v. Crown Castle class action pay out for the California crew. Do they really want 2,000 more of us filing a bad faith suit while they’re trying to close a multi-billion dollar deal?
    Accelerating my old money doesn't make up for stealing my new money. If Zayo isn't putting a "bridge grant" in our offer letters, Crown Castle is leaving us high and dry.
    Time to stop being "Castle Casualties" and start asking questions about our rights, too.

RSUs - why in VZ stock?

I was laid off with the Dec 19 crew. I got an RSU payout on Jan 20, another one on Jan 27, and then the last one on Jan 29 (yesterday). The first two were paid out to my Fidelity Individual account in cash. The last one was paid in VZ stock though. Anyone know why the last one was in stock?


RSUs for Riffed Employees

I have been carefully watching the status of RSUs due to being riffed. I have a screen shot of RSU units and estimated value at that time. The severance FAQ document Q.33 indicates that RSUs granted in 2023, 2024 and 2025 will pay out at their vested rate in 60-90 days after severance.

WARNING: What is not stated .... is that all your RSU's will be frozen at stock value as of 12/19/2025 (last day of employment). Meaning -- what is distributed (arbitrarily and in the last few weeks) is now where near the estimated vested rate per Fidelty in November or December.


Sharing success

Anyone else’s excited for their Sharing Success award! Such a thoughtful thing our company does, rewarding us with a whopping 65 units….
The RSUs and cash bonuses are pathetic.
Meanwhile, BM (Bowel Movement) unloads nearly 17k shares for just under $1m in the middle of each month.


Frontier’s Big Payday

The people lamenting the departure of the Frontier executives have it backwards. Here’s what actually happened:
1- Frontier was loosing money and marketshare
2- Activist hedge funds took a stake in the ailing company and shepherded it through a bankruptcy which reduced its debt
3- They recruited John Stratton, Nick Jeffery and other executives to lead the company after emerging from bankruptcy. Those executives received significant awards of stock and RSUs. The RSUs would vest immediately upon sale of the company
4- Frontier’s situation improved under their leadership although it’s still losing money
5- The hedge funds and the executives got a big payday by selling the company for $20 billion in cash to Verizon. Stratton made about $100 million, Jeffery about $90 million and the hedge funds made billions in profits. The Frontier executives had to resign in order to maximize their payday. They would have been fools to stay.


Switching to another bank/competitor

Hi all, I got an offer at another big bank/competitor. As a VP in risk/controls department, I see that I am required to give a 30 day notice period. Anything less and I will lose my RSU and will be ineligible for rehire.

What is likely to happen if I disclose that I am switching jobs to a competitor and I give my 30 day notice? Will they let me go on the spot, or will they let me finish out my 30 day notice period?


Notice Period

I am not able to get it from the HR site. Eliza is also not helpful in this aspect or I am no good in using Eliza - who knows

Waiting for the 401k matching credit (or should I) and the bonus check. Foregoing the RSUs

Questions are

  1. What is the notice period for SVP level employee?
  2. This year we have 25 days vacation - can these days be used during the notice period - including other time off benefits like Work from Anywhere, paid Safe time and other - are they prorated
  3. How does benefit work during the notice period -
  4. Am I still an employee (and rules bound) or can I be employed elsewhere in parallel
  5. Most importantly, how does compliance work in terms of trading - they can no longer terminate me ... This I wont HR will answer or Eliza can interpret
  6. Since I am leaving voluntarily how does the NDA and IP impact me during notice period and AFTER that (most importantly)

Dear HockTan, thank you for making us rich, and thank you for continuing to support ESG despite our division’s forever poor performance

As you know, many of us in the Symantec and Carbon Black divisions are in a resting-and-vesting mindset. We don’t care whether the division performs well; we only care about the RSUs going into our pockets.

Either you are delusional or clueless about what to do with our division, but please keep us and continue granting us more RSUs.


VSP details

I got the email. I am a high performer so it was not based on that. I suspect the offer is age based to get rid of the high salary folks. I am 62.
Exit date May 31 2026.
Depending on your level 8 - 26 weeks severance (26 weeks is VP level).
RSU - an additional year of vesting.
2026 Bonus will be pro-rated.
30 days continuation Medical
18 Months Subsidized Cobra (you pay what an employee pays).

Thought might be useful info, so bumping the post up. OP: @aq+1kbjqa3b6


G12 RSU and raises

Came in as a G12 employee through a Cisco acquisition. The first year was simply aligning the base pay and bonus to match Cisco. The second year, got full 18% bonus, $45K RSU but no base pay increase.

How is Cisco with G12 comp? Are there annual RSU refreshers and/or base pay increases?

I've also seen posts about how G12 are generally at a higher risk for layoffs. With the company pushing for margins it's making me anxious.


Need advice on RSU vesting.

My RSU will be vesting in first week of Dec but I got laid off as of today 14th. Along with notice period and garden leave, the last day is on Dec 12th. Will i be eligible to receive RSU's or they will forefiet it.

in the offbording package, they havent' mentioned anything specific on RSU's other than saying, the benfits will continue until the last day.


Question About Year 5 Comp and RSU Refresh

For new hires, the minimum total compensation (for example, a $100k base salary + $100k in RSUs) is locked in for the first four years as stated in the offer letter, but that guarantee expires in the fifth year. When I checked the compensation section on my.company.com, it only showed my $100k base salary and didn’t mention RSUs at all.

Can anyone clarify how total compensation works starting in year five? Will the RSU portion remain the same as the amount listed in the original offer letter, or will it be adjusted based on the current market compensation for my job level and performance?