#badmanager

My manager told me in front of my entire team that if I am so unhappy here, he has a replacement ready and I am free to leave. I was so stunned that I just said okay cool and went back to my desk. How out of line was that?

I would rather just stay understaffed than keep watching new people come in, fail to learn a single thing, and leave after a few months. Every time I end up explaining the exact same things over and over, doing their work and mine, and then starting all over again when they quit.

Pay attention to these Middle Managers causing alot of these issues.....This is conservatively 30% of Fiserv issue. These manager don't even want to manage. It is for money or sponsorship. How is this fair to the reporting worker. I really no longer care but for the recent college graduates adapt and get creative. It will only get worse. Fiserv has some really really really really really really bad managers and they lie. The bad out weighs the good use to be the other way around.

I was actively looking for a new job, both within and outside of Verizon. My direct manager knew I was searching and even gave me permission to use him as a reference. After a few months of applying and hearing nothing back, I assumed it was just the job market.

Then, after about four months, I finally landed a position where I could actually use my degree, which had me genuinely excited. When I told my manager at Verizon, he seemed noticeably unhappy. At the time, I figured he was just coming to terms with me leaving.

About a month into the new role, my new manager told me I was nothing like the way my former manager at Verizon had described me.

“This n***a work hard but he ya typical white boy from the south”.

I’m from Brooklyn, the furthest south I’ve gone is Jersey, not counting Disney World, and I’m Puerto Rican. My old manager was sabotaging me the whole time.

Working at Verizon was an overall great experience, and it’s something I genuinely miss. That said, the company really needs to take a harder look at the people they place in management positions. The work environment itself was strong, but poor leadership can completely undermine that if the wrong people are put in charge.

I’m pretty sure my boss is a re--rd and lacks the judgment and skill set for the role. He has a very childlike mindset and doesn’t seem to understand that putting people’s personal information into AI is a serious violation of trust. I go into work with the best intentions, but my direct manager consistently makes the experience frustrating and unprofessional. Basic decision-making, communication, and common sense seem to be a struggle for him, and it’s hard to see what qualifications or actual expertise got him into the position in the first place. It honestly feels like the rest of the team is constantly compensating for his lack of competence instead of being led by someone capable.

CSSC New York

This is crazy.

Your manager doesn't matter at all. They don't do anything regarding whether you remain employed or not, they learn of you getting fired about an hour before they let you know...they are useless so don't worry about pleasing your management.

DXC was designed from the start to be a financial instrument used to extract value. It explains all the shoddy treatment of staff and the cycling of poor mgmt. They appear to not have a clue because they don't, they'll spin you a line to keep you working, but the Leaders are working towards their bonuses and golden parachutes. They have all done it as each new cohort of leadership has come along. This is a long term plan to extract maximum value and then sell it on to another financial instrument such as Apollo, where the process will begin again. I'm sorry if you work at DXC, but don't expect anything from them and you won't be disappointed.

Two talented people are gone from the team, but the clueless, passive-aggressive manager survived. Lucky us.

I just started my career at Nike and I think I made a huge mistake joining. My manager is impossible. Every week he either ki-ls our ideas, adds random nonsense to our projects, or just criticizes for no reason depending on his mood. He doesn't understand the technical work but tells us how to do it anyway. Then later he asks why we did it that way. He interrupts everyone constantly and yells at least three days a week. I'm so tired. Is this the norm when it comes to managers here?

How much worse can it get than the situation I'm in now? Constantly worrying about cuts, dealing with an abusive manager who thinks fear is a legitimate managing tool, and being significantly underpaid compared to market. If I'm laid off, I'll be jobless but my future will look more promising than the one I see if I stay here.

I used to believe that if I worked hard and stayed loyal, my manager would protect me. Then I got put on a PIP after my manager promised me I was safe. They don't have your back. They have their own back. Never forget that.

I'll start. Mine took credit for a project I led, got a bonus for it, and then blamed me when something went wrong six months later. I hate that man.

Looks good on the outside but at its core, just rotten. Very polished, good story. When you look under the hood it’s a vile, rotten place filled with rotten SVPs and executives who all have sh!t in their pants.

They need to be able to make great slides to hide their incompetency so they hire consultants. They’re greed, self centered people who would stab you in the back in a second without thinking about it. They’re incompetent, immature, a$$ kissing, vile human beings who are nothing but greedy.

Get out of Dell if you can because there is absolutely nothing behind that stock price and it’s going to drop like a rock.

The worst of the worst types of people are at Dell and it’s not going to get better.

There was a manager in my group who was about to get fired because of how toxic she was. But then had a minor injury and just kept playing up for almost a full year.

If she is let go, that would be the best kind of karma.

vp bolted so directors are now trying to level up themselves by punching down on the lower level members on the team. it’s actually stunning how far you can go by giving all your work to your juniors with zero direction and then publicly dressing them down when it’s not up to your (see: dipsh-t) standards. so much for being an industry veteran when someone with no experience can tell you how it is. the job hunt continues!

Have to be two of the worst AI tools I have ever used

No wonder these pieces of cr-p are the ones fiserv mandates

I retired from exxon making 220k at 55. I could not stand it anymore. I said I would never work for this dysfunctional s heet show again. Well they offered me a contractor position through an agency. My pay was only half at 120k per year. They told me I would not have to deal with all the BS forms, moc, procurement, and training cr-p. I got put under a young female supervisor and she immediately started lecturing me about performance and expectations. I was simply there to help with engineering designs and reviews. This supervisor knew nothing of engineering and only knew exxon bruacracy. I was asked to perform some saftey tasks and lab inspections. I told my overlord it was not part of my duties and I was to do engineering work. She told me I was being insubordinate and she would delegate my tasks. It was all downhill from there. Since I was familiar with gmocs I was instructed to initiate several because the new engineers did know how to complete them. The supervisor was getting very angry at me complaining that I was taking too long on tasks. I quit 3 months into my failed return to exxon. The supervisor was pi---d and told me that I would never work at exxon again and I was on the black list for hiring. I told her to stick the job up her ar-e and I never wanted to work at exxon in my life. The contract company was pi---d as well and told me I could not work for them again. I do not want to work anymore. My treatment was the worst by this individual. I wanted to punch the s heet out of her. The power went to her head and she treated me like a child. I knew it was a mistake but I was bored and thought I could do work that I liked. This is just my story and hope it helps others not make the same mistake. I might just volunteer some where to stay busy.

Like we said on our last post, you fed us sh-t again! This is the 2nd bad choice who was made our lead and forced on us in a row.

I always love how the day starts out great. But then my boss gets into her email and starts firing away all sorts of directives and asks. I probably have a few more hours before this nonsense starts. Often wanting a response “ASAP”. Almost all isn’t urgent yet treated that way.

I’m on the clock at all times Monday thru Friday and basically get a Saturday off. This isn’t sustainable.

Anybody else’s boss “lead” in this glorious 2010 fashion? At least we sponsored the NBA Dunk contest, right “see you on the commute guy?? That changes everything.

So mismanagement loses the Marriott account and immediately out come the travel cuts! I don't think we will T&E our way out of this poorly run company! Does stopping manager travel and meetings, training events, back filling roles send the right message? How about stripping Senior Leaders bonuses? Those bloated million dollars payouts for poor performance? And if you say we will lose them so be it there has not been a strategic decision made in over 5 years! Funny how we blow smoke up everyone's butts on Town Halls but behind the scenes we do this cr-p!

I work in credit fraud and recently there were recent layoffs of remote employees who were amazing people to work with back on March 20. There are still some remote employees left that live about 1 to 3 hours from the office. They now want people to go in 60% of the month and I’m a remote employee that’s still standing and I am always left wondering am I next. This whole RTO has been a mess and it’s just getting worse. They even told me I should try to get into the office. No way I’m going to do that long commute with the high gas prices and I was hired as remote. With all this lay off talk I am getting to a point where I just feel they should just lay me off. My whole department struggles with low morale and if you ask a question or want help on something you get an attitude from management saying you are an advanced case processor, you should know how to do that. There is a lack of support for one another, just a negative attitude. I just keep my head down and quietly do my work. Anybody else feel like this? Always wondering if you are next? And your department struggling with low morale?

Elevate Kevin Z and get rid of Alfonso he’s another Manon waiting to happen.

Pay is below market, raises don't exist, and talent gets zero recognition. With all the layoffs, individual contributors are doing management work on top of their own jobs. Meanwhile everything keeps getting offshored. There's literally nothing positive about this place.

the most overlooked dynamics in a toxic workplace is the clash between a high performer and a su-ky mgr…

on paper, it doesnt make sense. Here u have someone who is proactive… engaged, and solution-oriented reporting to someone who should want exactly that. But the tension isn’t really about intent… it’s about how they fu--ing operate.

Hi performers focus on outcomes. they question inefficiencies and suggest improvments…. Su-ky ineffective managers, on the other hand focus on control. they avoid risk, interpret questions as pushback, and spend way too much energy covering for their own shortcomings.

so when a high performer tries to make things better, the manager doesn’t hear the idea. they hear that they’re doing something wrong…that’s where the toxic cycle begins. instead of engaging with the idea or the solution their focus shifts to the person presenting it.

from there, it usually goes one of two ways. the high performer keeps pushing, keeps offering ideas, and gets labeled as difficult. Or they go silent, stop questioning, stop contributing beyond what’s asked, and get labeled as disengaged and utter sh-t.

from the outside, both look like problems. but they’re not. they’re what happens when confidence meets insecurity.

if you’re a high performer at WFB dealing with this, the right environment won’t make you feel like you need to shrink just to survive or be effective…

My useless manager is getting riffed wef June 30.
He was totally useless. I need to tell him and executive team about it.
But I am too nice to tell him before he leaves.
Any suggestions?

I am sorry this is happening and leaders like MF should be fired and mid tier manager; that don't know how to manage up and balance.

What a tool

No support. Not even micromanagement. But also no involvement in anything, including office politics. Literally absent. Some might call that the dream, but in reality it just means the team is unmanaged. And when we slip, we'll pay the price. Meanwhile, they'll keep climbing, blissfully unaffected.

A good life. I was so used to that place that I stayed way too long when I could have been working at a place that has better pay, is actually staffed well, and doesn't have managers who get off on yelling at the rest of us. Give it a try, folks. There are much better employers than Macy's.

That's my manager. Everything is burning around us, we have so many issues, don't even get me started on layoffs-related morale drop, and all he does is ignore everything and drinks his coffee. And these are the people that are considered leadership at this place?

EM takes action the way a broken vending machine takes your money. You put something in, you hear a noise, and absolutely nothing comes out.

I’ve been checking this site occasionally because for me it's where I catchup on office politics. I laughed with the sarcasm and got upset with the pain some have been tolerating. I’ve never posted before, but seeing how many people tolerate hostility and harassment made me want to share my own experience.
I had serious family issues and needed some time off. Instead of supporting me, my manager started insulting me, saying women “aren’t made for the workforce” and that he needed “strong people.” He even went around telling others what was happening in my personal life and told the program’s project manager not to count on me. Then he dropped my ranking. I was humiliated and heartbroken.
About a year later, I heard his wife filed for divorce and he was dealing with a nasty situation of his own. Life has a way of circling back.

Never used to get this, but now it’s every week. GK has got to go.

Who is hiring these unqualified window dressing only store managers?
This is becoming a serious problem at Belk.

I once heard PP say in private that one of the the firm's biggest problem is over retention of underperforning associates. Did ER solve this? A lot of talent has walked out the door and im still surrounded by id--ts.

I've been here long enough to see this play out multiple times. A mediocre person gets promoted. I don't know if they interviewed well or they're friends with someone important. Then they get put in charge of a team of talented people and within six months, the best people on that team are gone. They quit, transfer, find something else. The mediocre manager is the one who stays as the work gets worse and the team gets weaker. And the company acts surprised. Promote the wrong people and you lose the right ones. It's not that complicated. It's just cause and effect. But they never seem to learn.

I'm in therapy now thanks to this job. I did everything right, great reviews, no issues. New management is awful, threatening, plays favorites. I have a health condition that needs good insurance and I live somewhere with few other jobs. So I stay. But I'm done ki-ling myself for them.

So after I was laid off last year, I grew a deep seated hatred for my director and manager for my departure. My resentment knew no bounds. I cursed them everyday for sticking me in this godforsaken job market. I imagined them laughing at me and my misery.

After finding nothing for almost 6 months and wishing I was dead and gone, my hatred for my prior leadership still driving me strong, I've come to learn that they were recently dismissed at the beginning of the year and recently today.

I now feel an emptiness I can't describe. All this time hating and letting it drive my passion to surpass them and land a better opportunity, and I now feel like I don't know like I wasted my time wishing them despair. I hate them for putting me in this situation, but now they're in the same boat as me. It feels weird learning that they're gone too from T-Mobile and I don't know anymore.

Heavy work, broken tech, bad managers, tiny raises. Insurance keeps getting worse. Basic tasks take all day. Sales and customers dropping, no vision. It's a mess.