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1/23 Layoffs Thread

If you are impacted by today’s layoff please post here to help consolidate information. Please post your division (Optum Tech, Optum Insight, OptumRX, etc) if you feel comfortable, how many people in your team. If you want to go deeper like M&R, E&I, etc that helps.

Don’t forget, you will get through this, you will bounce back. This place is toxic and I hope we all can find some peace.


My team is barely functioning

If we get more cuts, everything will break down. I'm refusing to pick up the work from people who were let go. If one person needs to do the work of three, then those other two shouldn't have been laid off in the first place. I'm not going to work my a-s off just to be laid off at the next opportunity.


They didn't have a choice

Look, micro moving to consumer put a majority of the revenue in a place that was and is to be driven through automation.

TMUS Global Services will then drive costs of operations and IT to 50% of its current cost structure (see MTUS India Jobs).

What was left was a COGS / SGaA supporting business/government that was unsustainable for a company who only sells 4 SKUS (Voice, nonVoice, IoT, HSI) and all other products were both unprofitable and not aligned to core pull-through.

And lastly, the business' ability to manage and account for both talent and performance put the business in a bind. Remove titles, cut teams, throw the grenade...and hire back after the dust settles.

Stock needs to have the support to get back to 225+ and it wasn't in the current playbook or operations.

I lost my entire team, many were uber talented and new and contributing. But nobody in the business was able to account for the talent. Its odd that talent management is no longer an asset.


What could timelines look like?

We all know that the timeline to make a room OPO employees at Deerfield. Based on that what could possible time line look like for re-org and may be layoffs.

Here is what I think it may look like:

Identify who they will still stay with the company by the end of this week.

Identify which teams they will belong to by end of next week.

Identify where the teams will sit and communicate with affected employees by the end of the month.

Here is what the structure could look like:

C-Level (CEO, CFO, COO, CIO etc)

  • Eight Directors reporting to each
    • Eight Managers
      • Eight Team members ( Leads if managing large offshore team)
        • Eight Off Shore Resources

All would be aligned to achieve same goals every 15 days to a month.

There might be product management team who will continuously be managing prioritized backlog. Their whole deliverable every two weeks is to add new approved items to the backlog.


Team Washington?

With all the layoffs happening, do we still have an ED and his team working on 5G out in Redmond, Washington. I think they had 3 employees and 4 contractors. They had to travel to Philly regularly to stay under the radar, but I haven’t heard much from them lately.


Thoughts on a "one book office."

With the push for FAs to share office space, there are FA teams merging to combine AUM into one-book partnerships. All of the "book" will be evenly divided among each FA.

What will the success rate be of these partnerships?

Does EJ have all of the partnership arrangements worked out (legalities) or have these situations been patched together (which is a possibility because management is discombobulated, to say the least)?

I've heard of one branch that has 4 "partners."
2 veteran FAs, an AFA and a brand new college graduate that hasn't passed testing yet (already considered a partner and included in talks).

Curious what the success rate of a set up like this might be? Family members sharing a book sounds like it could be successful, but with 4 distinct unrelated individuals (friends) sharing a book......I am skeptical on the success rate.

Curious what your opinions are on this new EJ drive to "share one book" equally among FAs."

Would enjoy hearing your thoughts on this matter.


Support team realignment 2026 working hours

Supposedly Belk corporate is considering a support team re-alignment. There have been numerous complaints through the company about support associates working extremely early shifts when they are needed at all times during store hours. One store employee claimed that Human Resources was never in the building when the bulk of associates were working because they always left by 2 or 3pm, and therefore associates were left without Human Resource assistance if needed. Instead of these early morning (6-2,7-4,7-3) shifts support associates will work a mix of mornings, nights, weekends, mid shifts, similar to sales team managers, and regular associates. This includes Human Resources, fulfillment, cash office, dock/truck, merchandising, and housekeeping. You heard it here first, more to come in the new year.


promotion vs exceeds vs meets

all the thank you notes from the top of the company. but vps and under are still always in a 24 x7 panic, blame game mode. in the team, how much if they up the grade vs exceeds meets , ive been here 3 years..last year when the company was doing well. they gave me peanuts, this time how much can i expect? meets - 3k , exceeds 7k?


This year was exceptionally depressing

I was among the lucky few who actually had a great team. A few a--holes here and there, but otherwise solid, reliable colleagues. Somehow, we managed to overcome management’s shortcomings, make our tasks easier, and even have fun, or at least feel a sense of accomplishment. Yes, it was a cosmic accident, but it happened. I actually liked my work because of it.

Then the reorg came and destroyed the team. A few exceptionally competent and experienced teammates were let go, some were reassigned, and now my team is hollow and definitely less efficient and productive. The inability to recognize an excellent team says everything you need to know about leadership and management. I can only imagine the end result of reorg.


When a leader asks for feedback after Pulse

And even has HR coming in to get a pulse on things yet gets defensive on a team call right before the holidays today to address the feedback. This leader is very disconnected from his actual team, CANNOT make a decision without consulting SLOD for BAU business matters, and spends all his time being a site leader when the time should be spent understanding his new role , engaging his team and for the love of everything training his green people leaders. Kennedy is a great leader pretty surprised he hasn’t caught on to this about his direct. Call today was odd he had with our team defensive when asked for feedback. Then don’t ask! Merry Christmas ya’ll.


Why do managers at BC always seem to be in conflict with each other?

I was am employee from VMware. After in BC, I find managers always fight with other manager.

They make every source code, KB and discuss meeting notes only available inside the group, ask engineer do not do any task comes from other manager, and even ask engineer do not help customer just because the team is busy on a new version release.

Today my manager ask me to fight with a team member, pushing them to do something.

How does this phenomenon occur?


Teams Calls Between Dallas and the Field

Why is it that every Teams meeting with the mothership has 9 people in Dallas who weren't on the original invite? I mean there are 4 on the invite and 13 show up.

They have no idea what's going on, they don't need to be there, and they ki-l the meeting result by asking ridiculously stupid questions. It's like the kid on the PeeWee football or Little League team that never got into the game jumping into a mud puddle to look like they played.

And yes, there ARE stupid questions.


Let's look at Testing teams next!!

AT&T needs to look at the various test teams. They seem to have the testing being done by contractors, but the employees, since RTO, are now located time zones away and unable to manage them. The testing should be collocated with the engineering teams and be accomplished with our employees, instead of wasting money on contractors that don’t have any skin in the game and couldn’t care less what happens with AT&T. With the current moves that are happening they should move employees from the FirstNet, IoT, and development teams to Redmond, where the majority of testing is being done.


TFB Destruction

Follow up from my post yesterday. Today my team was destroyed, as were many.

Years of building, growth, and success right down the drain. Top performing reps sent to unemployment right before Christmas. Meanwhile, mo--ns and failures keep their jobs. It's not about layoffs, it's about making horrible decisions and then executing poorly on those decisions.

This company has become an utter disappointment. We immediately bankrupted our culture, integrity, and brand as soon as we win the war. T-Mobile is showing their true colors, and it's as disgusting as it is disappointing.


Agile - I LOVE Agile!

So I went to my morning meeting. We all joined. Some were still waking up (west coast) and others had already consumed multiple cups of coffee.
"good morning!" said the scrum master.
"mmmmm" said we all.
"OK so we are going to go through the tickets now and start with you, Bob"
Ummm...OK so I'm not Bob, but I have to say, I started multitasking right away. Why you say? Well because what Bob does has nothing to do with what I do. In fact, all members of the team work on different things that really don't overlap.
But wait! We need Agile! Agile will improve lead time, cycle time, WIP, and other things (unmentionables)
In this team, nope. No one cares. Each is in their own world. Step back say 5 years, and everyone was trying to help. We all crossed lines. Now? Nope, all I care about is my tickets and their due dates.
So now we have a scrum master, a product owner, a manager, and then.....the rest of us. So we went from our manager (one person) to now 3 people all trying to manage the rest of us. And, did I mention, 4 of 7 got laid off? So now 3 of us are being managed by 3 new bosses to get more done with less.

This is the WF implementation of Agile. Read it and weep.......