#employeerelations

She doesnt know anything!

I didn't get the email this time around.
Are more cuts due this quarter?
What are people thinking?

Does any know when will CITI match our 401K 2025 contributions?

The email on 1/29 from the HR boss said: “In addition to those colleagues who chose to participate in the latest Voluntary Retirement Program, we plan to reduce our global workforce by approximately 2,000 roles (less than 3% of the enterprise) by the end of February.”

All the teams I’m aware of were cut between 5-20% on 1/29. So how is it possible that Cigna is cutting LESS THAN 3% of employees? Were there a lot of areas that didn’t have ANY layoffs? If so, which ones?

It seems like more than 2,000 people were laid off just on 1/29. And more layoffs are coming in Feb. based on the email. I don’t get the math unless they’re outright lying.

Until layoffs actually happen at your work site or disclosed from credible major news sources, do not believe any posts on this forum about them. As you found out, posters do not provide the affected groups or actual information to make their rumors even close to being true. Actual information should include initials of senior management for the affected groups. Do not use BM as we all know whose initials they belong to. Only valid BOA employees would know the organization affected by referencing the initials. It is ridiculous by the number of bogus posts about layoffs on this forum. This is not a game.

Tracking participants count #general Slack channel in Oracle One workspace, as the fastest available proxy indication of ongoing layoffs.

• jan01-jan31: 1604 layoffs, and 1834 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• dec01-dec31: 1031 layoffs, and 844 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• nov01-nov30: 1614 layoffs, and 1327 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• oct01-oct31: 2504 layoffs, 1762 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• sep02-sep30: 6275 layoffs, 861 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• aug14-sep01: 733 layoffs (based on Slack very few data points)
• aug01-aug14: ?2900 layoffs in IDC (based on media reports)

Regions outside IDC and NA usually have a significant delay when laid off people are disconnected from Slack (e.g. 1 month in Pacific regions, perhaps longer in some EU countries), so this is a floor estimate with additions reflected immediately, but reductions lagging behind on average.

I will post daily in comments on the count change and running current month total while this post is still on the first page.

With all the layoffs and people quittin... and morale in the absolute toilet, does anyone in the ELT really believe that this ship isn't sinking further and further with every layoff? How many fingers are left to stick in the di-e.

anyone else been put on a PIP recently? I had a meet expectations for end of year stuff but had a suspicious meeting with my sup about goals and a doc of improvements and now think its weird that happened. it wasn't us talking about goals. talked to someone else from another team and they had a similar experience but had a needs improvement end of year review. neither of us got anything from HR but maybe we shouldn't expect an email at this point.

How are we handling the no pay increase again this year? For context I have gone above and beyond and done Jessica’s extra projects and more. There isn’t anything more that I could have done to be a role model employee.

1. Sulk
2. Call out “sick”
3. Refuse all additional work
4. Other - open to suggestions.

sooo who are the lucky ones that got to become an AVP today

To the AIG team responsible for monitoring social media. Report back there should be layoffs. Focus on the toxic/useless managers. Leave the people doing the ground work of 2-3 people on one paycheck alone. There is no one left to cut on the ground. Maybe then you would actually have enough money in the budget to have employees and pay a proper salary.

For those asking when layoffs will start, or who is next etc. What exactly are you going to do with this information? Look for another job? You should be doing that already. Even if the info was available to tell you your department, or specifically you were being laid off, what would you do with this information? Save your money? You should be doing that already. Someone help me understand what all this worry is worth. Explain to me how knowing what will happen will change anything. BTW, you'll never know. You might get some tips about a certain department but you'll never know if it's going to be you. Why worry about something you have no control over? What you can control is how you prepare and you should be doing that already. Worrying about what can happen will only make you sick. Be in the moment. If it happens be as prepared as you can. But stop worrying about it.

One of our strongest Delivery teams were all transfered to contingent workers on Friday without any notice or consultation. Now they work for CapGemini.
I can only imagine how this is impacting morale. My heart goes out to this team, you constantly produce amazing results and get the job done. So sorry

We all said outsourcing to Infosys was a huge mistake and the quality of work will drop drastically. And guess what? Just a few years later, Vanguard is now bringing back some of the outsourced jobs because what we were saying turned out to be true. Still not enough, but it's a start.

Thoughts?

Let's be real: we're livestock to management. We're here to be worked, monitored, and eventually culled when we're too expensive. Our "value" is fixing old mistakes to avoid penalties. The goal is shareholder value, not employee well-being or customer service. This is the game, and we're losing.

Can we at least relax for a few months now that this round is over?

Any insight into how long is it between “pre lay off notice” and formal notice? Currently Not required to work, it’s classified as something like non-working administrative leave. Not required to come in-office. Still have teamworks access, just no systems access. Thx

Nothing has changed. Every year, at the same time, the horrid feeling of what’s to come. Here’s my 2 cents:
It’s only getting worse in tech.
Corporate doesn’t care about you.
HR doesn’t care about you.
Yes, HR is ‘secretly’ invited to the meetings - they want to make sure you show up and you may not if you know it’s a goodbye call.
Again,
Corporate doesn’t care about you.
HR doesn’t care about you.
Get out if you can and stop the stress.
I left before they had their way with me, and it was the best thing I ever did. I thought about waiting for severance, but then they would’ve really won wouldn’t they have?
Find a better way. It’s not worth it.
You are better than them. They might not care about you, but you have others who do.

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I received notice Wednesday morning that my position was eliminated, it is now Friday night and I have not heard from HR regarding what next steps are. Anyone else in this situation?????

Hope you all have a great weekend. Hopefully you survived this last round. But I expect several/many more this year.

Anyone from Detroit-Hamtramck Assembly Center here on the layoff website? let's start a thread.

They are closing the Grand Rapids facility - it's a full closure. About 100 people will be laid off. More consolidation on this level is happening.

Stellantis orders employees to return to work 5 days a week

Coming to your town next !

We hear, even those who got a waiver to work off-site are to come in or lose their jobs.

The recent surge in FORD “ghost” job postings may now make more sense —HR likely anticipated increased turnover among employees who WFH getting canned.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/stellantis-orders-employees-to-return-to-work-5-days-a-week/ar-AA1VlIzy?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=DCTS&cvid=697d0bbac8ed45dfb96d01d3cbb642da&ei=73#comments

I read a comment saying someone was told by Fidelity that they were approved to move to take care of their ailing mother, and then Fidelity said “sike”. To the person in that predicament, I’m sorry Fidelity did this to you.

I read a rumor that Fidelity employees may only need to come to the office once a week once again instead. I say RUMOR because I’m unsure how truthful that is.

Regardless of the situation, whoever’s reading this, please don’t forget to spend time with your loved ones. Most of us come here to vent. And that’s ok. Just don’t forget to be around people who make your life meaningful.

That’s all. Have a good weekend. If you’re on the east coast, safe during the incoming snow.

Change the retirement % to age chart.
62 = 100%
61 = 90%
60 = 85%
59 = 80%
IF THE COMPANY WOULD CHANGE THIS EMPLOYEES COULD RETIRE SOONER.

I doubt there will be any major layoffs in 2026. They want to look good with the old CEO is leaving and the new joining. There are still remote employees around that did not let go. Some they did, wonder their justification?

Run, hide, we are all doomed!

I wonder how many Amazon employees were encouraged to embrace AI in everything they do, only to have Bezos realize their jobs could be automated?

We are being forced to work 4 extra hours a week of OT. Thoughts?

When employees join a company, they are welcomed warmly and encouraged to believe in its mission and values. That same dignity should exist when employees leave. Instead, being escorted out through the very workplace where we contributed, in front of colleagues we worked alongside every day, is humiliating, traumatic, and deeply dehumanizing—especially when no ethical or professional wrongdoing has occurred.

If employees are trusted to work with integrity, they should not be treated like a risk or a spectacle at exit. Publicly escorting people out sends a clear message: respect ends the moment employment does. If an organization cannot offer a humane and respectful goodbye, it should reconsider how it defines “values” and “culture.”

This experience makes it difficult to believe that employees are truly respected as people. Perhaps the mission needs reflection—because how employees are treated in their most vulnerable moments reveals the real values of a company.

Does anyone know if for those of us that were impacted yesterday if we can still receive a performance bonus for 2025?

Was let go in early December, told I would get an offer the start of January but after calling HR I was told I was still an employee for Jan and would get the offer mid to late Jan but have still not received any email from them and doubt Ill be getting one tomorrow..Anyone in a similar boat get any new info? Thanks.

Today marked six months since I was laid off.

I realized it in a strange way. I got in my car to grab coffee and, out of pure habit, drove straight to work. I was already pulling into the parking garage when it hit me: oh sht, I don’t work here anymore. I turned around and drove home.

When my wife asked where I’d been, I told her I was just driving and thinking. And I was. I thought about the people who were laid off before me, some of them were ten times the employee I ever was. They didn’t lose their jobs because of performance; they lost them because of bravado, politics, being labeled “too much,” or because the wrong VP didn’t like them. Most of them have landed great roles at other Fortune 100 companies.

My wife suggested I reach out to them, to call or email and ask for help. I told her I’d be surprised if any of them even responded. The truth is, several of them had reached out to me when they were let go, and I stayed silent. I didn’t want them back then. They felt like competition.

A lot of the people who stayed weren’t chosen for the quality of their work, but for who they knew, and honestly, being female or non-white didn’t hurt either. I’ve reached out to friends still at Chevron. No response. I’ve reached out to people who were laid off before me. No response.

I call them friends, but maybe we never were. Maybe we were just people using each other until there was no value left, and then we were discarded.

Right now, I feel like I’m walking alone, and it feels terrible. I made a lot of money as a 26+, but it’s lonely at the top (if you call 26+ the top), and it hurts to know people are calling you an a--hole behind your back. I tell myself “fu-k them,” but it still hurts.

It really hurts. I keep wishing I had been a genuine friend instead of just a company friend. I wish I had lived out the faith I claimed, instead of being a “corporate Christian,” saying the right things for appearances. Lately, everything hurts. I’ve done a lot of soul-searching, but I still feel empty.

This is just for discussion ( I guess). What would happen if bank branch employees walked out midday (and locked the branches) so the branches couldn’t close the books on the day? Since branches need minimum staffing to be open it wouldn’t take 100% participation.

Dan just said in his video

Give them none.

Skeletor, Cuervo Swerve-O, and SD have no compunction about making our experience as employees worse. From cutting our 401k match to delusional AI boosterism, they've demonstrated they are incapable of leading.

Mock them for the hacks they are whenever you can.

Quick translation: No you won't get more people; yes you will get blamed for ELT decisions; we don't care about your burnout.