#layoffs

I've heard this is not performance based, so what is it? How do they decide who to cut? Also, I hate that we have to wait until December to know if we still have a job or not. I don't get why they have to let us wait that long.

The North Carolina-based book distributor Baker and Taylor LLC laid off 253 Illinois workers this month after announcing the closure of its Momence facility.

https://www.pjstar.com/story/news/state/2025/11/16/layoffs-ahead-for-over-1500-illinois-workers-heres-what-we-know/87233878007/

People were talking about cuts around holidays, what's going on with that?

there is 15% cuts coming for feb for gp2025, promise due AI efficency. list is being prepared/finalized now...followed by more coming as part of WP closure

For fans dreaming of returning to Middle-earth in a new, next-gen adventure, the news isn’t good. Amazon’s ambitious Lord of the Rings MMORPG, which had been in development since early 2023, has reportedly been cancelled.

https://geektyrant.com/news/amazons-lord-of-the-ring-mmorpg-reportedly-cancelled-after-massive-layoffs

After how everything was handled during layoffs, I spent every available minute looking for something else. After they kept us in the dark and acted like we were disposable, I knew my time here was done. Now I can finally move on and I’m not going to be looking back.

They’re here for the company, not for us.

What’s the schedule for finding out this week? Do SDs know or do they find out tomorrow or Tuesday? Does everyone else find out Thursday? How will it happen?

What I don’t see is Nike ever reaching the heights of its old glory again. I actually used to enjoy working here. Now it just feels like any other random job that could vanish at any moment, and I wouldn't even care. You can’t be invested when leadership isn’t, and you can’t feel like part of a team when there’s no team left. We’ve become bland, and cutting people seems to be the only strategy they have to stay afloat.

Look I’m not even mad anymore. just tired... Every week it’s another round of whispers about realignments and optimization, and we all know what that means. People disappear from the org chart, managers act like it’s business as usual... and everyone else pretends not to notice while secretly refreshing job boards.What’s wild is how leadership keeps calling this progress. They hold some all hands to talk about leaner operations like we’re supposed to clap for losing our coworkers. Then they tell us to stay positive and embrace the change. I’d love to, but it’s kinda hard to embrace being disposable.... and don’t even start with the we’re one team stuff. One team doesn’t keep cutting off its own legs. One team doesn’t keep asking people to train their replacements. You can call it efficiency all you want, but what it feels like is betrayal. I used to think Verizon was a place you could build a career. Now it feels like a place where you just wait your turn to be streamlined. Maybe the saddest part is how normal that’s starting to feel.

Bumping from @a6+1k9qp9myj.

I've heard from a few people that there's no need to worry about layoffs until next year. The higher-ups don't want to upset people too close to the holidays. Is this true or is it just wishful thinking?

Lets have more layoffs before Txgiving and Xmas so we all can be done with this craphole once and for all

Makes me wonder why I ever bothered. I regret every bit of overtime, every extra effort, and most of all, being invested in project outcomes. Nothing ever paid off. Yet I can get cut on a whim.

In the first one, Great Floors, a subsidiary of Artisan Design Group, plans to close five stores in January, including one in Puyallup. It stated that 58 workers would be affected, including more than 10 at its 716 S. Hill Park Drive location.

https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/business/article312923233.html

Usually, people are thinking about whether they'll survive within their team. These latest layoffs are about whether the entire team will survive or not. I've never been through anything like this in my life, and I've been working for nearly three decades. It's just on a whole new level.

Q3 results "Revenue of $1.96 billion , up 28.3 percent, or 27.0 percent in constant currency"...."Operating cash flow of $159 million, up $43 million year-over-year.
Free cash flow(1) of $131 million, up $24 million year-over-year."

These are all up, yet everything else is down. "Headwinds, inflation, uncertain government blah blah" stock is tanking, entire company is on yard sale duty, your coworkers are disappearing.

Why do these numbers not add up?

Skimming off the top? SLT stowing extra cash away? What is happening?

I keep hearing folks whisper about layoffs like it’s something to hide, and I don’t get it. Most of us end up caught in one at some point and it’s got nothing to do with our worth. I’ve been through it myself and the silence only makes everything heavier. We shouldn’t act like losing a job is some kind of personal flaw.

Regional Medical Center of Central Alabama has announced that it will lay off 90 employees and end inpatient care as it restructures its operations.

The hospital says it will file an application with the State Health Planning and Development Agency to convert itself into a rural emergency hospital.

https://www.waka.com/2025/11/13/greenville-hospital-to-lay-off-90-employees/

But that’s just my impression. Not that it makes any real difference. Especially not for the people who just lost their jobs, and not for those of us left behind. I imagine the bleeding will continue.

Once it's all over, I just want to see if any of them were right. I highly doubt it, but we'll see.

If I’m reading this correctly, if you work in NJ, they need to notify us 90 days in advance to avoid penalty. Do does this mean anyone told on 11/20 would be on the payroll for 90 days in NJ?

So hour by hour every publication is using the '15 to 20k layoffs' headlines to get to whatever sl--t they have, and all of the quotes and bullets are the same for all of the articles. And VZ officially has no comment. And this site and Reddit and everywhere else threads their hearts out with rumor/speculation/furvor. And VZ, the communications company with the new 'Tell it like it is' CEO, and a credo of integrity and respect, just allows rumor, speculation, and uncertainty take a deep soak while November 20 gets closer on the calendar. This isn't some scramble with no direction; Big Brother is controlling the communication even if it LOOKS chaotic. Chaos is a strategy.

Sycamore Partners doesn't care about you. This is only the beginning, and will only get worse. Sycamore Partners bought Staples in 2017. You should check out their layoff page if you want to see what kind of stress and uncertainty is going to continue for you. It's disheartening and seriously not worth it. Best wishes to you all.

It’s painful to watch how SAP continues to generate massive profits from the North American region, yet when layoffs happen, NA employees are the first ones targeted. The organization expects returns from NA but doesn’t reinvest in the region by protecting jobs or creating opportunities. Instead, the only real job security seems to exist in Europe and lower-cost countries, purely because of cost advantages.

This double standard feels like hypocrisy. Many high-performing employees across the US and Canada have been intentionally targeted. Several German managers have knowingly set NA employees up for failure, only to replace them later with far less experienced individuals in Europe people who often lack the maturity or capability to handle the complexity of the roles they’ve inherited.
What’s even more disheartening is the lack of empathy displayed by certain HR manager (who shouldn't be managers) in Europe. Many of leader's got downgraded their role to 2-3 times lower but still talk as if they own SAP. Don't have little to no shame to resign and leave the company. They deliver polished speeches during town halls about ‘family’ and ‘support,’ but the moment real, difficult questions are asked, they become defensive, vindictive, and punitive. Employees who speak up are often singled out and slowly pushed out through a toxic environment.

There is a clear pattern of favoritism, retaliation, and deeply unethical behavior happening across the HR space. These actions are not only damaging careers they are eroding trust, culture, and the very integrity the company claims to stand for.

The recent round of Amazon corporate layoffs isn’t a sign of an imminent AI apocalypse. It's an expression of the company's brutal corporate culture, enabled by its use of the H-1B visa program.

https://jacobin.com/2025/11/amazon-layoffs-artificial-intelligence-h-1b-visa

We all know more layoffs are coming, it's the new norm. Any thoughts on what could be targeted next?

The massive cuts and all the cheerful announcements haven’t helped the stock much.

It’s disheartening to see the direction SAP is heading. Having been part of this company for so long, it’s painful to witness the current layoffs and the uncertainty many colleagues are facing. At the same time, I’ve learned that HRBPs from across the globe are flying to Germany for a week-long in-person meeting which could easily cost around 200k$
In moments like these, it’s fair to question whether such travel is truly necessary. Could these costs have supported a few more roles or extended employment for impacted staff? Many of us on the engineering side feel the weight of these decisions deeply we continue to build and innovate while wondering. We engineers are building the company and the HR and the support functions are enjoying it. Does board leaders have become so week to not even as these questions to HR Leader and the CFO who is making these hasty decisions
I hope leadership reflects on these choices with transparency, empathy, and financial prudence. Strong, people-first decision-making is more important now than ever.
Do the board leaders have become so week to not even as these questions to HR Leader and the CFO who is making these hasty decisions?
SAP has become #AntiImmigrant #AntiEmployee

Used to be that if you got a job here, you were set. You could actually plan a future, take pride in the work. Now it’s all about cost cuts. They’ve traded loyalty for churn, and it shows.

There has been talk about even more cuts coming early next year, but nobody seems to know if it is real. People keep trading bits of speculation and it puts everyone on edge. I am keeping my head down and waiting to see what leadership says. It is tough concentrating on work with that hanging over us.

Companies that offshore jobs should be taxed heavily. It’s essentially “exporting” jobs oversees. Verizon would have to pay a huge bill on that case.

Gone

Unfortunately, a lot of people who will end up impacted by Verizon layoffs and start their job search in earnest are in for a terribly unpleasant surprise, even shock!

1. Working at Verizon doesn't automatically qualify you for a great new gig. It's corporate work that relies on a system within which many people are involved to generate the final output.

2. Verizon's reputation in the external world is not as great as you might think.

3. Verizon resume accomplishments don't mean much to people outside Telecom.

4. Telecom Industry hiring is slowing.

5. The New Jersey employment market will be flooded with people with similar skill sets making it hard to differentiate yourself from ~15,000+ other people out on the streets looking for work at the same time.

6. Verizon pays well and there's a good chance that wherever your next job is your compensation including benefits will be significantly less.

7. Corporate management and occupational jobs like what you had at Verizon will be harder to come by as time goes on due to companies automating via AI functions (e.g., Finance, Accounting, Legal, Marketing, Operations, etc) that previously needed to be performed by human resources.

8. Your next position after Verizon is likely to be in a different industry and possibly in a totally new job function. Prepare yourself mentally as you'll need to be flexible if you want to continue to work.

9. Your Verizon personal network will be vitually meaningless in your emploment search as people you thought were your friends and allies will forget you quickly. Too many others will be worried about their own job situations and those who remain at Verizon will be too busy trying to pick up the pieces of the cutback aftermath.

10. Verizon is firing you and you will never be welcomed back. Forget about returning to Verizon at a later time as it's over no matter how personally invested you've been to VZ over the years. Put VZ in the rearview mirror and move on to your next position.

11. Verizon will not be providing you with personal recommendations. You'll be directed to an automated employment verification system using VZ's company code which anyone looking to hire you will need to access.

12. Verizon severance will go quickly. Immediately review and cutback on your discretionary spending. Avoid the temptation to draw on your 401k as you'll need to pay taxes and anything you draw out at a time you can least afford to and it will take you years to recover against retirement savings.

13. Leaving Verizon employment you're going to be very self confident, however you'll soon experience periods of self doubt and discouragement as you go thru the job search process. Hang in there as this is a normal part of looking for a job.

14. The Job Search procees has drastically changed since you went to work for Verizon. Take the time to learn how to effectively search for a job using the latest techniques and approaches.

15. Verizon job skills are not necessarily transferable to other lines of work. You're going to need to invest time and effort into developing new skills to make yourself marketable.

16. Your post-Verizon job search will likely take time. The average search has been ~five months so yours could longer or shorter depending on many factors including how diligently you pursue your search.

17. If you choose to continue to work in Corporate America post-Verizon you will go thru layoffs again.

18. You no longer work for Verizon. Your job is to find a job.

19. Verizon's DEI policies are not practiced by many external employers (& rightfully so as everyone should be treated equally) and as such you're going to need to secure a new job based on your personal merits and abilities. If you're older don't worry as there are companies that will hire later career workers. If you're younger make sure you shed any thoughts of job entitlement and have a willingness to work hard to please your employer.

20. After leaving Verizon you will no longer have a structured routine. Do your best to maintain a daily routine and continue doing the other aspects of your life (i.e., attending church, volunteering, socializing, etc.). Above all do not allow yourself to withdraw and become isolated.

21. Being a Verizon Employee is no longer a part of your identity. Recognize that there are other more important aspects that make you who you are (i.e., relationship with God & family, values and beliefs, personality, interests, etc.).

22. You will eventually get thru this period of your life and forget about Verizon. Yes, this will be a time of personal challenge, but you will emerge stronger having personally grown thru the experience.

23. Leaving Verizon is an excellent time to reevaluate what you want out of the remainder of your life. For some it may be the opportune time to retire, while for others they may choose to reposition themselves with a new career (e.g., entrepreneurship, taking up a trade, Non-profits, ministry, other?). If you still need to work don't allow yourself to quit the workforce prematurely.

24. Verizon is just a company. Many people mistakenly worship at the throne of the company when in reality as a human organization it will eventually fail everyone that is part of working there. Remember, the Lord has a plan for your life and he will guide and direct your steps when you trust Him (Proverbs 3:5-6).

If they hadn’t gutted my team to the point where we’re barely functioning, this wouldn’t even be an issue. There’s only so much workload you can pile onto fewer and fewer people before everything implodes. And honestly, why would any of us go above and beyond anymore? We’ve seen time and again that the reward for hard work is watching your job get cut anyway.

I can barely drag myself out of bed on workdays, and I dread coming in. Burnt out doesn’t even begin to cover it. I’ve worked at several companies before, and this has been the most toxic, exhausting, and unrewarding experience of them all. At this point, I’m willing to face a brutal job market and even a long stretch of unemployment if it means protecting my mental and physical health.

I haven’t heard anything myself, but I’d really like to know if next week is going to be safe for all of us. I honestly just need a breather.

One way or another. This wait has been unbearable.

I am an enterprise architect that has been tasked with implementing AI from design to implementation. We have been very busy for the past two years, from governance, safety and control rack, and stack. Yes, AI is very impressive, and does bring a lot to the table for immediate impact on workflows, data science and automation. With that All being said AI still needs human in the loop, I don’t care how much we can build the guard rails, hallucinations are still a plague for us. But I will tell you that Google is very active and their consultant services, about what they are learning from Gemini. Every day employees use Gemini, but all you’re doing is training a system. I know they have that little disclaimer at the bottom that they are not using any Verizon data to train, but they are. They just use different words for it. This has been in the works for a while, and will be used as future metric data, for future cuts. I will tell you that this downsizing that’s coming is not because of AI, it’s not mature enough inside of Verizon. These cuts are trying to curve the bleeding that our past leadership has left us in. They are going to sting, but won’t be part of a overall strategy. Yes they will announce some flashy, news attention seeking moves this week. But nothing truly about the honest direction where we’re about to go. Do you think it was just by chance that our new CEO mentioned perplexity in his first? conversation? He has a very big stake in perplexity.