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Lazy and uninspired leadership

Seems lazy to just cut 15% across board and say AI will solve all Verizons woes. Lots of stupid decisions over last 10 years that has dragged us into the quagmire. No easy solutions and the old slash and burn technique will not really help. Seems the problem solving approach is gone and AI will solve all our ills. Again lazy and uninspired leadership.

@aj+1ka6kcsxq hit the nail on the head.


Vice laying off in London

Vice-owned Pulse Films, the storied transatlantic production company behind Gangs of London, American Honey and The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann, is exiting the high-end TV and film game after 20 years.

https://deadline.com/2025/11/vice-layoffs-london-pulse-films-shuts-tv-film-division-1236619967/


It's such a scary time right now

I've been searching everywhere for over a year, and nothing has come through. I only had two interviews in that entire period, and I was ghosted after both. I honestly don't remember the job market ever being this bad, and that just makes the idea of any upcoming layoffs feel even more terrifying than usual.


Weak Leaders Playbook

When I first entered this industry decades ago I was told by a fellow associate who had been in the industry for decades themselves this is how leaders who are insecure operate. In my decades in the industry I have seen this first hand for myself to know my former fellow associate was correct. I feel this is playing out again at Edward Jones right before my eyes again. Weak leaders who are insecure about their own abilities come in and make drastic changes in order to justify their existence. Many times they are handed companies who are in great positions even making record net income (sound familiar?). I was at a company that had a leadership change. The new leadership came in from another larger company. When they took over we had a conference call. The new leadership said they were implementing this plan that did not work at their former larger company. They admitted they made mistakes, but assured us they had learned from their mistakes and were not going to make the same mistakes at our company. In the meantime they shut down our department and I was laid off. Nine months later I received a call saying they were getting the old band back together and asking if I wanted to come back. Some people went back, but most people including myself had moved on and never looked back. The leadership at this company made drastic changes, severely disrupted thousands of lives, and in the end nothing really changed. The company is still positioned in the same spot as they were before these drastic changes. Then new leadership comes in again and many times they change policy back to the original plan in order to make changes for the sake of making change in order to justify their own existence. Penny was handed a great company in a great spot. She just could not help herself. Here we go again. Let's bring in Chubak who laid thousands off at Citi and now Citi has already reversed many of his decisions. DC has been proven to be a failed leader and Penny has hitched her wagon to him. By the time Penny is done with this firm she will have spent millions of dollars and disrupted thousands of people's lives and the company will be in the same position as when she took over. Look at our past few managing partners. They stood by the firm's long tested and tried policies and we saw significant slow and steady growth to put us in the best situation we have ever been in. Even Penny has said these drastic changes are being made from a position of strength not weakness. There is an old saying in investing and business. It goes, "Bulls make money, bears make money, but pigs get sla-ghtered. Don't be hoggish." There is even a sign in the West entrance of the South St. Louis Campus that says, "Buy and hold". Make sure you make your money, but don't get greedy. These are the tenants that got this firm to where it is today. Slow and steady growth. A stable ship led with a stable hand. Think of JW navigating a horrible 2008 economy. The firm came out of 2008 better than when we went in. Penny is being greedy. She is burning many associates and she is going to get burnt herself.


It’s such a fiasco it’s comical

We had to find out from Reuters and the Wall Street Journal that 15,000 of us are losing our jobs this week. But from our own leadership team, we are getting radio silence. Instead, we have to come to this board in order to get any information. It’s tragic. Where is the communication?


Cuts hit the people who gave the most

Seeing that long timers were pushed out makes it clear how little this place cares. Some of these folks built their whole careers there. They could’ve offered early retirement or a way to leave on their own terms, but they didn’t. It’s a rough way to treat people who showed up for decades.


Unionize now to fight for a better tomorrow

If we’d been unionized, Verizon could not just blindsided 15,000 of us overnight. A union contract legally forces the company to negotiate the layoff process first, things like timelines, criteria, alternatives, notice periods, and protections. They can’t just drop the axe and walk away. It becomes a fight, not a surprise.


Hiring straight out of college

We're pulling in new grads left and right now, and that might be fine if the candidates were strong, but they're really not, and it makes the whole situation feel like a huge downgrade from when this place only hired top talent. With all the layoffs happening, it makes way more sense to bring back experienced people who already know the work or at least hire folks who actually understand what they're doing. Instead we're ending up with new hires who are completely lost and not remotely interested in learning, which helps no one and drags the rest of us down. At this point, a hiring freeze would probably be smarter than pretending this current approach is getting us anywhere.


All eyes on VZ this week

As a 20 yr employee who was let go last year, I empathize with what you all are feeling this week. But, it feels really good to be on the other side of VZ and moving on with life. I thought my world collapsed when I was let go last year, but I've realized multiple times it was the best thing that could have happened, especially seeing what life is like at VZ now. Sad to see our once great company imploding. Since 2015, it has been a slippery slope down hill. First a small slope, then bigger...then bigger...and now it feels like the slop has near hit bottom. Everyone said a certain leader would run this company into the ground...seems they were right when this was said back in 2018 at the first VSP. May the odds be in your favor...rooting for you Vteam.


Maybe it's all by design

You know, telling us way in advance then going completely silent, allowing us to speculate, panic, fear, then eventually fight about it. There's a LOT of psychology happening amongst us in these boards. That's not my field of education or expertise, but it's fascinating to me, all the same.

Then again, it could just be the unfortunate byproduct of a new CEO with a different narcissistic driven output from the previous guy.


This weeks schedule

Monday Morning- 5V staff calls with 6V calls will happen, news will be shared. No delegates can join.

Monday Morning - your weekly staff calls (6V ADs with 6V sr managers and 7 band and lower), these will be cancelled.

The slack or just calendar invite being cancelled will be your only communication until Thursday with your manager.

Monday- Wednesday … will be a ghost town between people impacted and their leaders. You won’t hear from leadership until you’re notified.

Thursday- people notified and leaders get back to normal.

March 2026 rinse and repeat


Anyone else freaking out after a year without an offer?

I was laid off this time last year. I was with Dell in various sales roles for 20 years right out of college. I became an adult and professional with Dell. What I’m learning is my Dell skill set isn’t seen as that well trained or valuable to many other companies. Maybe it’s a bit of age discrimination as well, but surely being early 40s doesn’t mean I’m already retired from any tech job does it? I don’t know. I’ve been doing gig work to survive, but I used to have a real career, decent pay, benefits, savings, retirement, travel, dignity… feels like I’m worse than back to square one now. I feel like I’m going to lose everything I’ve spent two decades building in my life because I can’t find another job like what I had at the only job I’ve ever really known. I used to be the guy that had enough to help friends when they were hitting rough patches, now I’m the one always asking for favors. Sorry, just having a panic attack in the middle of the night because of all of this. I’ve applied to hundreds of places, even outside of tech in other sales fields, and I feel like I do great in the multiple rounds of interviews, just to get rejected or even worse, absolute crickets. I can’t go entry level in another totally different field because I’m either seen as too old to be an apprentice, or too over qualified (they feel) for an entry level thing. So how do I start over then?! I also have other friends and former coworkers that have been recently laid off, so now I feel like I’m competing with them for a role. It’s all so frustrating and frankly scary. Make it make sense. I just want to work again.


Chaos, confusion, and a corporate bingo card

Fresh off the all-hands meeting, where leadership proudly told us everything is “record-breaking, absolutely historic, folks”, the company rolled out a restructuring plan so wild it should come with a safety label.

They’re desperately trying to fix what even duct tape, prayer, and three consultants named Kramshi, Vamshi and Bamshi couldn’t fix. And then, of course, the master stroke: shifting jobs to India because someone read a PowerPoint that said “globalization = savings” in big sparkly letters. Brilliant! Truly next-level thinking. Never mind that they understand the local culture about as well as they understand their own product roadmap. They probably think the caste system is just an optional settings menu you can turn off. Brilliant!

I’m sure nothing says “operational excellence” like replacing entire teams overnight and hoping the universe sorts it out. Really incredible work, if the goal is chaos, confusion, and a corporate bingo card full of terrible ideas.

Tremendous work! S'more Popcorn Please!


Just to lighten the mood...

(To the tune of: Mammas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to Be Cowboys)

Mammas, don't let your babies grow up to work for Big Red Don't let 'em pick networks or chase that 5G Make 'em be doctors and lawyers and such Mammas, don't let your babies grow up to work for VZ They'll never be home, and they'll always be stressed Even if they give you their all, they'll just cut you to be "lean"

(Verse 1) He'd bleed red and black, wore the polo with pride Believed in the network, felt good deep inside He missed kids' ballgames for "critical work" Now he's a "cost transformation," a shareholder perk.

(Chorus) 'Cause they'll get a new CEO from PayPal, you see Who talks about "culture" and "scrappy" He'll take a fifty-million-dollar bonus and then Cut fifteen thousand people just before the holidays again.

(Verse 2) He heard all the rumors, the "critical inflection" The talk about "synergy" and "cost correction" Then the call came on Thursday, "November the 20th" "We're making you 'leaner'," just a number, not a person.

(Chorus) 'Cause they'll get a new CEO from PayPal, you see Who talks about "culture" and "scrappy" He'll take a fifty-million-dollar bonus and then Cut fifteen thousand people just before the holidays again.

(Bridge) They'll say you're all "family" when they want your long hours But you're just a line item when they're in the glass towers They're losin' subscribers, so you'll pay the steep price While Dan Schulman's bonus is lookin' real nice.

(Verse 3) So Mammas, go tell 'em before they sign on That loyalty's a one-way street, and then it is gone They don't care about you, just the stock and the churn It's a "Home for the Holidays" lesson you'll learn.

(Outro Chorus) Yeah, they'll get a new CEO from PayPal, you see Who talks about "culture" and "scrappy" He'll take a fifty-million-dollar bonus and then Cut fifteen thousand people just before the holidays again.


Depressed , anxious , sleep deprived

Anyone else here feeling like this ? Just tell me already if I’m jobless. I got so much debt that the severance wouldn’t be enough. I’m SCARED. If I make it this round , once frontier deal is complete that just means more layoffs. A lot of Frontier and Verizon engineers would just overlap jobs so that means MORE CUTS


Don't get sick or get old

If you get sick or a family member gets sick you will be moved to the top of the layoff list.

HIPPA protects your medical history but not your medical/insurance costs. The company has access to that data and will use it to prioritize people for layoffs.

If you get old, your insurance costs will go up, and you will be selected for a layoff.

Don't get sick or get old.


No layoffs for now

Santa Barbara County is aiming to avoid layoffs and focus on budget cuts instead, despite budget shortfalls in two departments.

Social Services will eliminate 58 unfilled roles, and County Health announced it has stopped transferring undocumented patients

https://www.noozhawk.com/santa-barbara-county-to-avoid-layoffs-but-will-eliminate-unfilled-positions/