Will HR make him send an email with an official apology or will 3000 RND employees be quietly told to ignore him? Either way confidence is lost. He fired the testers causing an explosion in escaped bugs. BH apologed for him. His rolling reorg has... — read more
Cary Gaming Layoffs
Meanwhile, out in the real world, Red Storm just laid off 100, and Epic Games... — read more
Never be honest. Never.
We had an internal survey and a lot of us were honest about everything, including management. A few weeks later, several of us were laid off. Funny how that worked out.
Serendipity requires proximity
Is it too late to go remote?
How much is SAS taking from the Anthropic settlement?
If you are a SAS author, how much is SAS taking from your book's the Anthropic settlement? I'll go first. SAS wants 100%. I guess the big guy must be hurting more than we realized.
50 years
The sun began to set over the 50 year anniversary celebration as the band filled the air with a steady rhythm that kept the energy high. Near the edge of the lawn, the televangelist was busy handing out free books for the upcoming book club meeting... — read more
50 years
I’m predicting some form of internal IPO announcement/details as part of 50 year anniversary activities… let the downvotes commence
BH sez get ur azz into the office
..slackers, all of you. /s
Everybody wants to leave
I'm shocked at how many people I talked to are looking for something better. Heck, some of them said they're not even looking to go up in pay or benefits, they are even willing to take a pay cut to get away. When did we become a place people were so... — read more
Package for most recent layoffs
Anyone know what the layoff package looked like for the unfortunate folks let go last week?
I believe the entire premise that the company is being “led” is a false narrative
From my perspective, there is little evidence of meaningful leadership within the organization. The senior management team appears largely aligned around maintaining the status quo rather than addressing the significant challenges the company is... — read more
Merit info
Anyone got merit this year? I got 7%, maybe I am at lower end.
Bonus Info
Well it is bonus announcement week. Anyone hear anything yet? Use this post to report %s this week for those into such things
We're being led by id--ts
They trade experience for cheap labor and then they're surprised the results aren't the same.
Early retirement buyout offers this year?
Does anyone remember the timing for last year’s buyout offer? I finally hit the 'magic number' and hoping for a repeat of last year’s offer.
Today is layoff day at SAS
So far at least 7 people I know in one subgroup that rolls up to the marketing division. All individual contributors. No idea if they were paid out according to the standard severance agreement. Job elimination was given as the reason. What have... — read more
The AI Economy
Wall Street is down today because of this speculation about AI's economic effects. It's well worth reading: https://www.citriniresearch.com/p/2028gic
SAS among the best places to work for
From N&O: “SAS Institute in Cary at No. 556” Congratulations!
Analytics->Advanced Analytics->??
About 25 years ago Advanced Analytics was created. What’s next after the AA reorg? Just Analytics?
This is disturbingly ominous
What's up with today's email? Extremely concerning to say the least
There's a right way to lay off and there's a wrong way to lay off
Right way to lay off: SAS - notice and generous compensation Wrong way to lay off: WP - no advance notice, no compensation, employees left stranded in war zones https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sPgnh4U6Oj8
Feb 2026 -- Agentic AI Software Development
https://youtu.be/dZxyeYBxPBA?si=09AvHbklIct55iWZ The level of AI impact ON SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT continues to be profound. What is the probability that even the most leading edge (something SAS has not been for a long time) traditional software... — read more
Bonuses/Raise predictions.
Let’s hear bonus/raise predictions for 2026…. My prediction Healthy bonuses High performers - 15% Moderate performers - 8% Low performers - 3% Low inflationary raises for older high earners regardless of performance Youngish high performers -... — read more
What can SAS learn here?
https://youtu.be/7sk3qmIQZnI?si=ffHq_Sr2fIVkfh6y
Kickoff yearly bonus statement
What is your interpretation of the statement by CFO at kickoff — “For every employee the bonus structure will shift to reflect the overall company performance” How is this different from previous years? Just an excuse to water down already meager... — read more
This is bananas
Time to split
It’s not fair to blame upper management for a lack of vision
It has been indicated, here, that upper management is responsible for a lack of growth caused by a lack of vision and innovation. Further, this lack of growth coupled with inflation causes reductions in the workforce (i.e., packages, attrition, and... — read more
Sometimes I wish I was laid off
I know I should be glad to have a job, but I'm so burnt out and miserable. The people who got the package might have gotten the better deal. It's rough staying here.
The Changing Market
Anthropic’s Claude can already convert significantly complex SAS programming streams into Python and related libraries. Complex systems of nested macros might require human intervention, but these tools are only going to get better. IOW, the years... — read more
Anything new on potential layoffs?
I'm not liking the quiet, feels too much like a storm is brewing.
How much energy is being devoted to SAS Swag?
It's the top story on insidesas today. They're making commercials for it? There's a dedicated online store, they have pop-up shops around campus. Why?
Here’s what will happen:
A big personality will have convinced the powers-that-be that he can make a difference. He just needs to enact his special game plan. The new year will start and the plan enacted. People will move, scores will be settled. Then they’ll take... — read more
Anyone else holding their breath for next week, 1/6/2026?
We’ll finally see what the big R&D reorg brings…or takes away.
Big changes in Jan 2026?
I’ve heard from four different people that something big is supposed to happen in January 2026, but nobody would give me details. I’m curious what they might be talking about. Any guesses?
SAS has been flat for 15 years
Hate the game, not the player... If you’ve ever tried to keep all the flavours of SAS ticking over at scale, you’d have a bit more empathy for the hiding to nothing that team is on. The model is properly broken, no doubt. But it isn't the... — read more
R&D Town Hall
I’m not going to disclosure company confidential information but that was a lot of good things shown and discussed at the town hall. So much for all your past x% growth on a small amount is still a small amount commentaries related to Viya. Ok now... — read more
How would you integrate SAS with Open Source?
Several posts have criticized SAS leadership for not embracing Open Source. Successful companies such as Confluent and DataBricks have used Open Source as their foundation, and added their value on top. But if SAS had taken that approach, its... — read more
In other news: IBM acquires Confluent at ~11X Annual Revenue
Apparently the Confluent Cloud is not a Cluster*fook Confluent's cloud revenue was a primary driver of growth in 2025, with Q3 2025 cloud revenue reaching $161 million, a 24% increase year-over-year. Confluent reported its Q3... — read more
It’s time to fix the clusterf*ck that is SAS cloud
SAS Cloud seems to run entirely on project managers. No actual SAS experience in sight, yet somehow they manage to present themselves as experts on absolutely everything. No wonder the whole place looks like it’s permanently waiting on a meeting... — read more
The similarity to Oracle’s situation is not surprising
Oracle appears to be undergoing a similar situation. Although uncanny, it’s not entirely surprising: https://www.thelayoff.com/oracle https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kawcch11 https://www.thelayoff.com/post/@eq+1karc4qsa Which companies in this... — read more